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Welcome everybody. We are going to call the Holiday City Council meeting to order on Thursday, September 9th and we always begin 00:01:19
with the pledge allegiance. If we could ask everybody to rise, please. 00:01:25
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. 00:01:35
Is going to be public, for which it stands by nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:01:40
Thank you. 00:01:49
There are no public hearings on the agenda this evening, so public comment will be your. 00:01:52
Only opportunity to address the Council. Public comment is now open. We just ask that you please, if you want to address the 00:01:58
Council, just please come up to the podium if you'd give us your name and address and we try to limit it to 3 minutes if possible. 00:02:04
So public comments open. 00:02:10
Hello, my name is Andy Waddell, 5690 S Pheasant Lane. 00:02:21
I sent an e-mail to all the council members and I hope you had a chance to read it. My concern is a lighting ordinance for the 00:02:29
city. 00:02:33
And about a year ago, I read a lighting ordinance for the city and thought, well, hey, well, these place places aren't doing this. 00:02:38
And then I was told, no, that's the commercial. 00:02:43
There is none for residential. 00:02:48
And I think we should have one for residential. 00:02:51
The properties that caught my attention are on Walker Lane. There are three relatively new places that one of them has 24 lights 00:02:55
against a solid fence. 00:03:03
I peeked over the top of the fence. I could see one little light on the House and these 24 light nothing but the street. 00:03:11
I think it needs to be a citywide ordinance. I don't know how you divide districts. I've heard sometime that, well, some districts 00:03:19
wouldn't want that. And I think if some districts don't want it, there's never been an ordinance in place. I drove for an hour, I 00:03:26
don't know, Saturday or Sunday night, wandering around through holiday. And most of those are neighborhoods that were had a couple 00:03:33
of lights. 00:03:40
Focused on their house and I think if neighborhoods didn't want more lighting, they would have created it because there apparently 00:03:48
is no ordinance against it. 00:03:54
I suggest darkskies.org as an organization that is concerned about those things. A number of cities, Idaho, California that I 00:04:00
checked use this dark skies as not an exact template but getting some ideas for how to create lighting, keep the voltage down and 00:04:08
keep the the light shining in a direction that's not offensive. 00:04:17
Keeping what they call light trespass to a minimum. 00:04:26
In other words, this is my light. It doesn't. 00:04:30
Illuminate your yard So again I. 00:04:33
I'd like the Council to consider getting the planning people to put something in place. 00:04:39
Thank you. Thank you very much. 00:04:45
Looking at you, Kim. 00:04:57
Nothing. 00:04:59
You came all the way over here. Well, I wanted to hear Andy. 00:05:04
Kim Duffy, 2195 Walker Lane I'm trying not to repeat everything that he said, but the answer I get to a lot of questions that I 00:05:09
have is no, we can't do that. It's private property rights. Private property rights. But when somebody buys a property and 00:05:16
installs lighting that come into my bedroom, where do their property rights end and when do mine begin? 00:05:24
I didn't anticipate that Walker Lane would be the sort of trendsetter for obnoxious lighting practices, but it seems to be. I have 00:05:32
two empty lots to the east of me and one empty lot to the South of me. 00:05:39
And if they install lighting anything like those other houses on Walker Lane, I'll go. 00:05:46
That and then I'll be in here every month driving you bats. Thank you. Thanks. 00:05:51
Anybody else for public comment? 00:06:01
Thanks so much for coming out. We'll close public comment and move to item number four on the agenda. 00:06:05
This is the rezone application on 6571 S Big Cottonwood Rd. from residential multifamily RM office to research development to 00:06:10
office research and development Ord. This was in the packet last last council meeting. We had the public hearing and close the 00:06:18
public hearing had a pretty brief discussion about it. I think had presentations from both. 00:06:27
City staff and the applicant. 00:06:37
So I would ask the Council, we've got the applicant is here as well as Mr. Tierlink, who I believe presented on behalf of staff, 00:06:39
any questions before we take a motion on this rezoning application. 00:06:47
Mr. Mayor, I move that we adopt ordinance 20/24/15 amending the zoning map for. 00:06:58
The property located at 6571 S Big Cottonwood Canyon Rd. From residential multifamily to office research and development zone. 00:07:04
Second, OK, we have a motion and a second Council member. Gray yes. Councilmember Quinn, yes. Councilmember Fotheringham, Yes. 00:07:12
Councilmember Durham, yes. And chair vote just that rezone application is approved. Thank you, Council. 00:07:18
Item number 5 on the agenda is the advice and consent of four new nominees to the Arts Council. We got to meet three of them 00:07:25
across the hall prior to this meeting. 00:07:32
And I was trying to pull up my packet or turn on my screen. 00:07:39
So these would be. 00:07:53
Three-year terms beginning on October 1st going through September 30th of 2027. And we got to me, as I said, we got to meet three 00:07:55
of the four. So if there's no questions or comment from council, we can take a motion on approving the advice and consent of these 00:08:03
four new additions to our Arts Council. Mr. Mayor, I move approval of Resolution 2024, Dash 28. 00:08:10
Granting our advice and consent from the Council to the appointment of four members to the Holiday Arts Council. 00:08:19
These members being Isla Johnson, Carol Speckman Moss, Susan McFarland and Eileen Schwai Shui. 00:08:26
Second OK motion and 2nd Council member Gray yes, Council member Quinn yes, Council member Fotheringham yes Council member Durham 00:08:35
yes and chair vote just those four new nominees are approved and. 00:08:42
I see two of them here. Again, thanks for your willingness to serve on that council. 00:08:51
A city manager report. 00:08:56
Two quick items for me. First, at the urging of council member Gray, city staff met with representatives from the Meals on Wheels 00:09:01
program and we are going to be partnering with that organization for a route twice a month. 00:09:11
Supported by city staff and we hope by City Council members if you are interested in participating. And we think it would be 00:09:21
roughly once every two to three months for each individual. 00:09:28
Please read it, reach out to Lena and she will coordinate a schedule going forward. We're really excited about the opportunity and 00:09:35
thank you for pointing us in that direction. 00:09:41
The second item I just wanted to make the council aware of and I will send you an e-mail notification, but I'm going to be out of 00:09:48
town from September 27th to October 14th and we'll miss the next council meeting. Holly Smith will be acting city manager during 00:09:56
that time and so if you have any issues that come up during that time period, please let Holly know. 00:10:03
That's it for me. Any questions? 00:10:13
Anything for Gina? 00:10:18
Have fun. 00:10:20
All right, Emily, let's start with you and we'll just work our way down, work our way down the line. 00:10:25
So there are some really exciting things going on in my district. I, I don't know who knows this, there's some big changes 00:10:31
happening at Cottonwood High School. I think it's going to start next year, probably implemented. 00:10:38
The following year, there's two big changes. The 1st is that the Ames Charter School that is housed in Cottonwood High School will 00:10:45
now be under the auspices of Granite School District. 1 of the results of that will be that. 00:10:53
Cottonwood students will be able to take classes from Ames and vice versa, so there'll be more interaction. 00:11:03
They're also going to increase the cap of the number of students, so they're going to, they're talking about about 200 more 00:11:09
students. 00:11:12
It will increase the class offerings for Cottonwood students and. 00:11:16
And there won't be as many class conflicts. That's the first big change. The second change is even bigger is that Granite School 00:11:21
District has just finalized an agreement with Salt Lake Community College to offer a full associate's degree program at Cottonwood 00:11:27
High School through Salt Lake Community College so students can start as freshmen and continue on and graduate with an associate's 00:11:34
degree. 00:11:41
So it's it's a huge bonus for Cottonwood High School. 00:11:48
And all our students from holiday that attend Cottonwood and I think it's going to do a lot to revitalize that school and that 00:11:52
network. So we're really excited about that for all of our students that go through that network. 00:11:58
That's good news, I guess. Really good news. It's really exciting. 00:12:06
I don't have anything tonight. 00:12:14
Paul 2 items we had. The Arts Council had a dance event last Friday night. 00:12:16
Kind of a shorter notice thing. We was kind of like a pop-up dance concert. 00:12:24
And by SB Dance and I was not able to attend given a family wedding, but I heard it was really interesting. I had sort of a tarot 00:12:28
card theme and about 150 ish, 160 ish people in attendance. I think we may, you know, resurrect that in future years and build 00:12:37
that audience. And then secondly, on September 27th is our makeup concert. 00:12:45
For Severn Bridges Rd. which is part of the summer concert series but was rained out because that's been rescheduled. 00:12:54
For Friday, September 27th, but at 7:00, not the traditional summertime 8:00. 00:13:00
So be there. 00:13:07
That's all I have. 00:13:08
I have a couple of items. One. 00:13:11
I was able to attend the ribbon cutting that Anne Francis Garcia put together for Real Taqueria was a really great event. They 00:13:14
were opening their new patio and and had some members of the business advisory committee there and a mariachi band. 00:13:22
And it was great to meet with the owner. He's he started that restaurant when he was 20 years old. 00:13:31
And right at the beginning of the pandemic and has survived and lasted five years and opened a new patio. So that was really fun. 00:13:37
I also attended the Happy Healthy Holiday Coalition meeting this week and a couple of things from that meeting. 00:13:46
Wanted to thank Holly for being the chair of that coalition for a long time and getting it up and running. And she's passed the 00:13:54
baton to Molly Sullivan, who's the new president of the coalition, and we're excited about that, but wanted to thank Holly for all 00:13:59
her hard work because she's really done a great job. 00:14:04
And then also just let you know that there will be an organ donation informational event here at City Hall on the 26th, I think at 00:14:11
7. Is that right, Holly? 00:14:16
7:00 So if you have constituents that are interested or if you're interested, you could attend that meeting. 00:14:22
That's all. All right, just a couple of things. Youth Council met last night and they had a couple of represent representatives 00:14:30
from UPD come in. Unified Police come in. 00:14:35
Officer Ali. 00:14:43
Clayton Paris, I think it's Paris now from special victims. 00:14:44
That's who they wanted to speak to him and I think they had their eyes opened a little bit by that presentation and then we had. 00:14:50
Oh, Sergeant. 00:14:58
Watson and K9 officer Cash. 00:15:01
Was there and it came in here and we had a little demonstration, but they both did. Chief, if you'd pass along or give me their 00:15:05
addresses, I'll write them a little note. But I thought they both did an excellent job and I think the Youth Council. 00:15:11
Was very interested in. 00:15:17
You know what they what they had to say, but also it gave them a little bit of and we're hoping we get more of this. 00:15:20
Out in the community that talking about shared services and how important it is and why it's important. And I know Lena's been 00:15:27
speaking with some of the other Pios from around the UPD family to start getting a collective message out to our community about 00:15:35
why we belong to these unified models and what it brings to our community. And I think they were able to see the level of 00:15:42
professionalism that were able to develop inside these shared services nodes, whether it be. 00:15:50
Victims or canine or SWAT or violent crimes or forensics. And it's the same with unified fire. 00:15:58
So I thought that was great. I'm really looking forward to seeing if we can. 00:16:05
Cobble together a message that we can all start putting out to our communities about the importance of these shared services 00:16:11
models and why they're so great for our communities. 00:16:16
So I thought that was great. So thank you to them. Had a great presentation Monday night. 00:16:22
Kim from. 00:16:28
Doctor. 00:16:31
Erlinger It was really, really good. I was fascinated by it. Although the people that love trees in the community probably would 00:16:34
be surprised to learn that there weren't very, very many, if any trees in the valley when The Pioneers. 00:16:43
Walked in from immigration but he talked about. 00:16:52
The evolution of the ecosystem here since 1847, I guess, but it was really interesting. And just to put on your calendars, you've 00:16:57
got another great presentation coming up. I think October 7th. Ellis Ivory is going to be speaking, is that right? And that should 00:17:05
be that should be really good. But I really appreciate the historical Commission these these. 00:17:13
Umm, just real quick too, we're going to have a follow up conversation. Emily spearheaded a conversation around the Promise 00:17:52
program that really started in South Salt Lake and Mill Creek around. I think the overriding goal is trying to get 100% graduation 00:17:59
rates, especially in, in, in those title one schools in Mill Creek and, and South Salt Lake. But we're trying to expand that 00:18:06
conversation to Cottonwood High and see if there's a role that the city can play. 00:18:14
Participating in that. So that's kind of a stay tuned. I think they're trying to put a meeting, a face to face meeting together to 00:18:21
see if there's a place for holiday in that effort. 00:18:27
And oh, and the Meals on Wheels. I just want to. 00:18:34
Echo that, that's a great program, and if you do have time, it doesn't take a lot of time. 00:18:40
It's a county program. It's fabulous. I've done it before and it's very rewarding. If you can find the time every couple of months 00:18:46
to volunteer an hour ago, deliver those meals. So get with Lena on that one. I think she's the point of contact. 00:18:52
And that's all I have. So we are going to. 00:18:59
Reconvene City Council in a work session and for item A to Salt Lake County public safety bond presentation. We're going to stay 00:19:04
here and once once that is complete, we'll move across all. So I'll just take a motion on that. 00:19:09
Close to the Council and reconvene in a work session. 00:19:17
2nd, we have a motion to second. All in favor say aye aye. We are adjourned as Council and we're reconvening in a work session. 00:19:20
Is she here? 00:19:34
Oh, OK. 00:19:38
All right. Yes, do we need to? We'll let you guys do introductions. You're on our agenda, but we'll let you introduce what you're 00:19:41
going to talk about. As I, as I mentioned to you previously, we have in our packet the presentation in PowerPoint. The Council has 00:19:48
gone through the presentation and we'll leave it up to you guys to kind of hit the high points with us. 00:19:55
Welcome. 00:20:03
I'm Ann Granado. I'm the County Council member for this area. This is Katherine Fife, the deputy mayor. She's going to go through 00:20:05
the bond. 00:20:09
In general, and then I'm going to explain why the Council is in favor of this. I apologize that our backs are to the. 00:20:15
People, because this is a bond issue, this will be on the ballot and public engagement is absolutely critical. So I'm going to 00:20:23
leave these handouts of the presentation with Gina for anyone that has any questions. 00:20:30
After the presentation or anyone in the city that wants to ask questions. 00:20:39
But as the council member said, Salt Lake County is moving a bond question to the public to finance significant county wide 00:21:14
criminal justice system needs and improvements. 00:21:19
So it's really important to understand this didn't just come out of the blue. It's been years in the making. Actually, I do want 00:21:24
to just mention that our Salt Lake County Jail has not had a single bed added since 2001. 00:21:32
And population growth has occurred and there are capital maintenance needs, deferred capital maintenance needs that are abundant. 00:21:40
So those are some really important critical things that you know, have been happening leading up to years that really informed and 00:21:45
really are are making this a necessity at this point. In addition to that, there's a lot of conversation about criminal justice 00:21:51
reform, how we're doing things in Salt Lake County, how we're addressing mental health, substance use, you know, those behavioral 00:21:57
health needs of individuals. 00:22:03
And also how we are making sure that we're addressing. 00:22:10
All of our needs within our county, deferred maintenance and otherwise. So we got together and whose responsibility is it? What 00:22:17
does the county need to do? How are we working together with our municipal and state partners, our private nonprofits, other 00:22:23
experts in the area to address like holistic needs and intersecting issues with criminal justice, especially with with mental 00:22:29
health and those who are unhoused or housing insecure? 00:22:35
We want to make sure that we have the ability to address all of those issues if we have to work on one. Let's look at how they do 00:22:42
intersect and how we can work on those together. So Salt Lake County leaders have been working with other leadership and experts 00:22:49
from internally, other department, all those departments as well as leadership at the state level and municipal level too. The 00:22:56
council voted in a bipartisan manner to support putting this ballot. 00:23:03
Or putting this initiative on the ballot. 00:23:11
And it was a bipartisan 8 to one vote. Really want to make sure that we talk about that because it is important to everyone in our 00:23:13
community to make sure our communities are safe and our community members have the resources that they need to live, you know, 00:23:18
self-sufficient and and fulfilling lives. 00:23:24
We want to make sure that you understand that Governor Cox is supportive of this, as well as other municipal leaders. We've worked 00:23:30
really closely with other mayors and council members throughout the county. Next slide, please. 00:23:36
So this bond is also a part of a larger plan. I really want to emphasize that part of those discussions. And looking at our whole 00:23:45
entire system throughout the county was really important to us. We've identified a lot of needs, including housing, a need for 00:23:52
additional housing throughout the county. We also recognized a need for, you know, all sorts of criminal justice reform, not just 00:24:00
redoing our jail, but also looking at training for crisis response for law. 00:24:07
Officers looking at more enforcement of addressing our drug crisis in the community. In fact, the council and the mayor have put 00:24:15
forward. 00:24:19
In approved in a budget, our budget we're using opioid settlement dollars, two new DEA officers. Really we're working on this 00:24:25
urgently. We want to make sure that this is something that we're working together on and looking at everything we can to make sure 00:24:30
that holistically we're taking care of our community. 00:24:35
All right, So let's talk about the solutions here. So part of this plan that we talked about there's OK. So I just want to kind of 00:24:41
back up that Salt Lake County and Mayor Wilson put forward an action plan that as you can see, these solutions of needs in the 00:24:47
community, it's expanding housing, the criminal justice reform and the bond is really tied to that. And I think it shows that in 00:24:54
the next slide. 00:25:00
Yes, right here. So we can see we have solutions as part of a big plan, but what we're talking about tonight is the bond and 00:25:08
there's really a couple of different components to that. Bond 1 is building a justice and accountability center and one is 00:25:14
improving and expanding the gel and mental health unit within our gel system. Next slide, please. 00:25:20
So let's talk about the Justice and Accountability Center for just a moment. What we know is that there are individuals who are 00:25:28
who are. 00:25:32
Going to jail, they are interacting with law enforcement frequently. They are being arrested for crimes that they're not held in 00:25:37
jail for. So they're small or some people call them petty crimes or low level crimes. They are people in crisis not knowing what 00:25:44
to do or how to help somebody who is having a mental health crisis or have are using substances. 00:25:51
So in the Justice and Accountability Center, it'll be a place for stabilization so law enforcement, our mental health crisis teams 00:26:28
can say this is where we need to have somebody go instead of just back to the streets and and cycling through our systems. 00:26:36
So that Justice and Accountability Center, what one of the things we also saw as a gap in our system is residential treatment for 00:26:45
mental health, those experiencing mental health issues. We have a deficit of of resources and units focused on mental health. And 00:26:52
so part of the Justice and Accountability Center will include at least 16 residential treatment beds for those who the de facto 00:26:59
arrest, go in jail and cycle. We have another option. We are doing things differently. We're better able to serve them. 00:27:07
Stabilize them and get them connected with long term treatment and resources from there. 00:27:15
So it will be a stable place and it will be basically a stabilization facility really focused on keeping people out of the 00:27:21
criminal justice system and really reducing recidivism rates. All right, next slide please. This is in combination with our 00:27:28
revamping our gel right now you may know that we have an OXPO facility and the adult detention center. We have two facilities that 00:27:35
are part make up our county jail part this what this bond will do is decommission. 00:27:43
Oxbow and we'll look at expanding our existing adult detention center. What we'll do is expand the bed so we'll have more beds. As 00:27:50
I mentioned before, since 2001, no new beds but. 00:27:56
Growth, population growth really high. So we need to just make sure that we are planning for now and in the future of being able 00:28:03
to serve the community and hold people accountable and hold people in jail because really it is that capacity. We're using those 00:28:08
beds all the time. 00:28:12
What we need, part of the adult detention center and the jail will also include doubling our mental health unit. So making sure 00:28:18
that those who need to be in jail and held accountable that also are facing a mental health issues that they have those supports 00:28:24
as well. So we're able to really make sure that accountability and those mental health issues are addressed together in better 00:28:30
ways than we ever have before. And then we're also going to include some step down beds or some people call them community 00:28:36
correction center beds. 00:28:42
Lives and will help you know make sure that that's kind of a step in back re-enter into society way. So and that will really 00:29:18
complement the justice and accountability center as well. So just want to make sure you understand that we're revamping the whole 00:29:25
gel to better serve individuals, making sure they don't come back and our community when they are released and make sure that our 00:29:32
community is ready to welcome them when they are released back from jail when they've served their time. 00:29:39
Next slide, please. 00:29:47
These are FAQs. We don't really need to go over them too much. Please look at them. These are just answering common questions. I 00:29:50
think these are good to to have available for constituents or as people have questions. These are just some common things that we 00:29:54
get. Next slide, please. 00:29:59
Here's what everybody asks. 00:30:05
It's a big question. What's the bond amount right here? Is listed as 507 million. 00:30:07
I do want to recognize that the cost it was actually, it actually is 607 million, but thanks to our prudent County Council for 00:30:13
setting aside 100 million for this purpose. Ready to make sure that the taxpayers burden is less. So we wanted to make sure we 00:30:21
were bonding for as little as possible to make sure we were doing the right things. But so we do the the we do have the 100 00:30:28
million that was set aside and then we will and then you can see the breakdown of the other costs. 00:30:35
What does this mean to our taxpayers? For residents, based upon an average property value in Salt Lake County of $602,000, it 00:30:43
would be for less than $5.00 a month. So $4.91 a month per residence and per business, $8.93. 00:30:53
Right. Next slide. 00:31:03
Here's the bond language. This is what will be on the ballot. It describes the different components that are included in the in in 00:31:05
the bond and that amount of the 507 million. Again, it's acquiring and constructing injustice and accountability center, combining 00:31:13
the two gels into one increasing capacity addressing the really needed. 00:31:21
Capital maintenance on the existing Correctional Facility in addition to expanding it. 00:31:31
And really just making sure that all of our county public safety facilities and ancillary buildings are safe and ready to do what 00:31:36
they're meant to do for our community. 00:31:41
All right, so I went through this really fast. 00:31:48
But if you have any questions, again, there's the website. We have Brad Townley who is working on setting up follow-up 00:31:51
conversations. So if there's constituents, if there's groups, or if you would like us to at any time come back or speak to anyone 00:31:58
else within, you know, within Holiday City, we are happy to do that as well. And Brad can help arrange that. Of course. You know, 00:32:05
we're happy to be here and always have conversations about this too. It is a lot. 00:32:12
And we want to make sure that the community, that all of our county residents are educated on this. And so that's why we're here 00:32:19
tonight. And we're committed to doing that, you know, up until the election and beyond. So. 00:32:25
Both the mayor's office and the council's office realized that this is a big ask. 00:32:33
And so we want to stress that this was a long time in the analysis. It was a deep dive. And the point that is very important is 00:32:39
that it was drafted from a perspective of looking at the current system, deciding what the gaps were and going out and doing 00:32:49
research both locally and nationally how do we best fill the existing gaps. And that was the basis for coming. 00:32:59
With the plan and the bond. 00:33:10
It's important to know that the two things that we need to stress are integration and continuity. So I'm going to speak to you 00:33:14
both as a council member, but as a boots on the ground, my day job is working for Medicaid at the state and it's working with the 00:33:23
members that are most directly affected by the by the jail. 00:33:31
Mental health, I work with them every day so I'm able to see what is needed and I'm able to see the way that the county, through 00:33:41
this bond is addressing what happens when people are incarcerated is they are released from jail. If they have been receiving 00:33:48
mental health treatment along with medication in the jail and they're released and they're on the street, they're going to be 00:33:56
cycling back through the jail repeatedly. What? 00:34:03
This bond do about this, the center that is being built with the decommissioning of the Oxbow and the state's new waiver that 00:34:11
should be in place and approved in November, it's waiver 1115 offers a whole new view of this. What they will receive is that when 00:34:18
they are in jail 90 days before they are scheduled to be released, they will be made eligible for Medicaid, which means that 00:34:26
Medicaid. 00:34:33
Will pick up the cost of their mental health and their medication care. They will receive continuous treatment throughout that 90 00:34:41
days. They will be released from jail with 30 days of medication, an appointment with the substance abuse group and housing 00:34:48
alternatives. So this is where the integration comes. They've realized that mental health and physical health are completely 00:34:56
intertwined. 00:35:03
You can't address 1 without addressing the other, so this is a full service bond. It's going to hit at each point where there have 00:35:11
been gaps in the past and bring the continuity of treatment. It will work with the MCAT teams that the county has been able able 00:35:18
to advance. It will work with the Huntsman. 00:35:25
Facility that is just coming online, it will find these people where they are at and it will give them the resources that they 00:35:33
need to not keep cycling back through both the jail and the mental health treatment. So by identifying the gaps, the mayor's 00:35:39
office. 00:35:46
And fully supported by the County Council has found ways to feel each of these gaps to make it a full service. 00:35:53
Approach. Does anybody have any questions? 00:36:03
I just have a couple. Do you anticipate or is there data that will show if there's going to be any impact to the homelessness 00:36:10
issue by bringing these facilities, you know, expanding the jail and then adding the justice and Accountability Center to the 00:36:17
inventory? Or is this a separate population from that? It's an integrated population. 00:36:25
For for a large number of the people that are homeless, it is because of mental illness issues. 00:36:34
And so by bringing them in, helping them find stable housing, helping them get the mental health treatment they need and keeping 00:36:40
track of where they are at, not just releasing them. 00:36:47
There is no data that I know of that is going to project what will happen in the future. I know that the mayor has gone out to 00:36:55
several different cities throughout the country and looked at different programs that are already in place to assess and there are 00:37:02
a lot of them out there. I believe they went to Washington state, didn't they went went to to Washington County in Portland to see 00:37:10
what they're doing because they have a significant homeless problem. 00:37:17
So they've looked at different approaches throughout. 00:37:24
This the nation. I think that. 00:37:30
When I was in a meeting represent our former Senator Niederhauser, who is now the homelessness czar, he had gone to Texas to look 00:37:34
at some different approaches. So they have tried to see what is out there. They have tried to see what is working and what is not. 00:37:43
And that's the program that they've come up with saying these are our gaps, this is what we can bring in to fill the gaps. 00:37:52
And there will be constant monitoring. 00:38:01
And if there needs to be a change, there will be a change, but there will be constant monitoring of how each different approach is 00:38:04
working. 00:38:09
That I can say from personal experience. The single biggest problem is mental is is lack of continuity in mental health 00:38:14
medication. They start them on medication, they see improvement, and once they're released from the jail, there's no follow up. So 00:38:23
between the bond, the improvements at the jail and the waiver at the state level, there are going to be resources. 00:38:31
To fill in the mental health gap. 00:38:40
Absolutely. 00:38:45
Yeah, thank you. I think she described really well what helped inform this solution, which is not the solution to everything. And 00:38:46
I want to just go back. About a year ago, Mayor Wilson, Governor Cox Mayorman and Holloway Niederhauser got together and signed an 00:38:53
agreement to say how they were each going to be committed to working on addressing issues that are intersecting behavioral health, 00:38:59
homelessness, criminal justice. 00:39:05
And part of and what Mayor Wilson in Salt Lake County committed to are the areas where we have the authority over and the. 00:39:12
Ability to do so relooking at the gel, looking at our behavioral health issues. So the state and specifically Wayne who is focused 00:39:19
really on homelessness have other solutions that are specifically for individuals who are experiencing homelessness. In fact, the 00:39:27
legislature approved 25,000,000 to create additional year round shelter beds for individuals experiencing homelessness. What this 00:39:34
bond is doing is helping like it's it's a comprehensive plan that all need to succeed. 00:39:42
In order for us to really see an impact in our community, individuals who are experiencing homelessness certainly cycle through 00:39:50
the gel. We see about 1/4 of the gel each day has individuals who are housing insecure or who are homeless. In fact, we have a 00:39:57
dashboard that shows self identified how many individuals are in our gel at each point in time who are experiencing homelessness. 00:40:05
But however, this is not a homeless shelter or just a resource for those experiencing homelessness. 00:40:12
This is really looking at the entire, I mean, this is part of a comprehensive plan that Salt Lake County has identified this what 00:40:20
we can do, But we know that others are working on pieces that will help populations who are intersecting with all of our issues or 00:40:28
all of these systems as well. I know homelessness is a really complicated, multifaceted problem, but this could be. 00:40:37
A piece of it, a piece it will, it will help. And then I just had one more question. I can't get my computer to work, but is it 00:40:46
Did I see in the report that you're going to bring on 12? 00:40:51
Is it 12 DEA is it DEA agents? Is that and I may ask the chief this too, but is that an expansion of the the current DEA 00:40:57
allocation in the county right now and and chief, are we I'm trying to remember in our budgeting if we're still. 00:41:07
Putting a portion of our budget to that or is that a different, is that gangs or wait trying to think. 00:41:18
Yeah, there was a conversation about. 00:41:25
OK, so, but this would, this would expand the amount of agents that the county had currently has. It would yes. And I, I mentioned 00:41:29
when I was just speaking that the County Council approved 2 DEA agents that actually with right with the county right now with 00:41:36
the, with the UPD switch, we actually made sure that we would maintain with that decision. We're maintaining our DEA officers in 00:41:43
Salt Lake County, but we know that we have a drug crisis. 00:41:50
And an epidemic and opioid epidemic that we need to address. And so our DEA agents expansion of that will help address that 00:41:58
crisis. So is it going to go from 2:00 to 12:00? Are we? Yeah. So it would, well, it's not 2 that we've already done 2. It would 00:42:06
be 12 additional over five years. So we're looking at in the plan which the Mayor's action plan, which the bond is a part of it, 00:42:13
it includes other pieces, which is the DEA agents expanding over the next five years. Yes. 00:42:21
Well, and a part of this waiver is becoming online is going to make a difference to the county. Right now the county bears the 00:42:28
entire expense of mental health treatment and medication. And by bringing on the Medicaid piece and getting people in that are 00:42:35
qualified enrolled in Medicaid early, they will be picking up the cost of some of the mental health treatment and the medications 00:42:41
in the jail. 00:42:48
Plus, the waiver will bring on additional mental health support staff, and that is one of the most difficult. 00:42:55
Problems that the county has faced is finding qualified mental health. 00:43:02
Personnel and so we'll be able to hire some more mental health personnel at the jail and expand the availability of treatment. 00:43:08
I'm just looking at the plan to make sure I don't misquote. So the the plan said 12 total. We have done the two. So it's ten 00:43:17
additional over the next five years. So and we've kind of caught we've we've planned it out over the next five years. We want to 00:43:24
expand it year over year to get to an additional 10 from what we have now. Thank you. 00:43:31
I just want to now regarding the bond though. 00:43:40
As I'm looking at this particular page, the bond is primarily about bricks and mortar and beds, right? It's facilities, not 00:43:44
programs and Medicaid funding. 00:43:49
And so I'm presuming that you talk about a waiver that's going to then provide us some funding or funding offset by the state for 00:43:56
the the Medicaid piece, right? 00:44:02
And because you mentioned earlier that the primary problem or the biggest problem is that continuity of mental treatment, mental 00:44:10
care treatment, and that's the biggie. 00:44:16
If I'm repeating back to you what you said, but there's a little bit of a disconnect to me about that and the bond because the 00:44:24
bond is about facilities. 00:44:29
And facilities may be a different problem. But facilities is not Medicaid funding. 00:44:35
It is a combined solution to a gap because what it does is one of the biggest problems now that I experience with the. 00:44:40
Medicaid prop. With the Medicaid program is that people cycle through treatment and they're not there long enough. They can be 00:44:51
assigned to say Odyssey House, for example, but they can leave at any time. 00:44:58
So they cycle through a lot of treatment options. By going into the jail 90 days ahead, you're getting them on a pathway for an 00:45:05
extended period of time that then allow the connection of coming out of the jail and what the bond works with is getting them. 00:45:14
Further treatment? Getting them housing, getting them signed up with a substance abuse counselor. 00:45:25
Getting them the mental health meds that they need so it's not just an in revolving door. 00:45:31
That means so these facilities are in order to keep them in custody longer, but in different sorts of facilities. 00:45:38
Longer it intervenes sooner before they're released. 00:45:45
So now, yes, they may receive mental health treatment in the jail, but the minute they're released, there's nothing there. So if 00:45:50
they have 90 days of Medicaid coverage, which adds funds, then they are, then they're on a pathway and they are, they are 00:45:57
connected to services when they leave the jail. They're not just released from jail, they're connected to services when they leave 00:46:05
the jail. And but we need to have these facilities in order to. 00:46:12
The program you're talking about because our current facilities are inadequate for backing up the services. 00:46:20
That you want to provide earlier in the process. 00:46:27
The jail is the pilot program for the state. 00:46:32
That we'll go back to CMS to show what is being done, where the gaps are being filled and why we need this waiver. So the jail is 00:46:36
already involved as the pilot. 00:46:43
Or the state. So they are already in the loop and already working through and there will be statistics. 00:46:50
From what they do with the state. 00:46:57
I think the council member is showing that how these the Medicaid waiver and this bond complement one another and you are correct 00:47:01
with the bond builds these facilities and we know that we need to make sure that they are operational both staffing wise as well 00:47:08
as the resources. And so the Medicaid waiver will help tremendously and we have a pro forma or we have a proposed budget for the 00:47:16
staffing that we. 00:47:23
Comfortable not that it won't be a burden on taxpayers to operate this gel once it is with, you know, no additional tax. But this 00:47:31
bond does not include the operations. The expansion of the mental health facility at the jail gives us the ability to to achieve 00:47:38
extra services. 00:47:45
Did that answer your question? 00:47:55
All right. Really quick. Since the Medicaid piece is a state funded piece, I'm curious. 00:48:00
Is the state looking at expanding this? 00:48:06
Treatment before release to other jails in the state. 00:48:12
It's a statewide program, but the Salt Lake County Jail is the pilot. 00:48:17
So they're already working with Matt DuMont. 00:48:23
Because that's where they're going to need the statistics and the support when they go back to their waiver has been approved in 00:48:27
November, they have to go back to CMS with concrete facts. That's what what the Salt Lake County Jail is being the pilot is going 00:48:33
to provide to you. 00:48:39
Thank you. 00:48:46
So are you. You're not waiting until these new facilities are built to start implementing this program with Medicaid, is that 00:48:48
correct? 00:48:53
Doctor Jenn Strowhecker at The State is Over DHHS. 00:49:00
Is the one that is guiding this through. 00:49:06
We want to and the mayor's action plan that, you know, it includes the bond. There are other pieces like the approval of the DEA 00:49:10
agents, the funding for that, that we don't want to wait for. We know that there's a lot of work to be done to better care for 00:49:18
individuals who are cycling through many systems. And we know and there's commitment from the state, municipal and county Level 2 00:49:25
on better ways that we can reform our criminal justice system, but it is urgent. 00:49:32
We are, we are making sure that as we are educating and waiting for this bond to see if it's going to pass or not. We are not 00:49:40
waiting on every other piece of the plan that both Salt Lake County is really working on. And as you heard from the council 00:49:47
member, this state as well. We are I think at a very interesting unique time where there is alignment on different levels of 00:49:54
government also with our private nonprofits, our treatment providers. 00:50:00
And we are working together. 00:50:07
Cross party to really say we, we, we're working together, knowing what we all are responsible for coordinating and moving it 00:50:10
forward in the best way we can. 00:50:15
Well, thank you for taking time out of your schedules to come and educate us on this bond. I know it's going to be a big issue. 00:50:24
Come November and thank you to Councilmember Granada for your long and dedicated service to the citizens of Holiday. We appreciate 00:50:31
it. 00:50:35
And Drew was an excellent judge for us. She did many. 00:50:39
Excellent judge, so thank you. 00:50:45
Thanks a lot. Thank you. 00:50:52
OK, with that, we'll take just a couple minute break and relocate across the hallway. 00:50:55
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Welcome everybody. We are going to call the Holiday City Council meeting to order on Thursday, September 9th and we always begin 00:01:19
with the pledge allegiance. If we could ask everybody to rise, please. 00:01:25
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America. 00:01:35
Is going to be public, for which it stands by nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 00:01:40
Thank you. 00:01:49
There are no public hearings on the agenda this evening, so public comment will be your. 00:01:52
Only opportunity to address the Council. Public comment is now open. We just ask that you please, if you want to address the 00:01:58
Council, just please come up to the podium if you'd give us your name and address and we try to limit it to 3 minutes if possible. 00:02:04
So public comments open. 00:02:10
Hello, my name is Andy Waddell, 5690 S Pheasant Lane. 00:02:21
I sent an e-mail to all the council members and I hope you had a chance to read it. My concern is a lighting ordinance for the 00:02:29
city. 00:02:33
And about a year ago, I read a lighting ordinance for the city and thought, well, hey, well, these place places aren't doing this. 00:02:38
And then I was told, no, that's the commercial. 00:02:43
There is none for residential. 00:02:48
And I think we should have one for residential. 00:02:51
The properties that caught my attention are on Walker Lane. There are three relatively new places that one of them has 24 lights 00:02:55
against a solid fence. 00:03:03
I peeked over the top of the fence. I could see one little light on the House and these 24 light nothing but the street. 00:03:11
I think it needs to be a citywide ordinance. I don't know how you divide districts. I've heard sometime that, well, some districts 00:03:19
wouldn't want that. And I think if some districts don't want it, there's never been an ordinance in place. I drove for an hour, I 00:03:26
don't know, Saturday or Sunday night, wandering around through holiday. And most of those are neighborhoods that were had a couple 00:03:33
of lights. 00:03:40
Focused on their house and I think if neighborhoods didn't want more lighting, they would have created it because there apparently 00:03:48
is no ordinance against it. 00:03:54
I suggest darkskies.org as an organization that is concerned about those things. A number of cities, Idaho, California that I 00:04:00
checked use this dark skies as not an exact template but getting some ideas for how to create lighting, keep the voltage down and 00:04:08
keep the the light shining in a direction that's not offensive. 00:04:17
Keeping what they call light trespass to a minimum. 00:04:26
In other words, this is my light. It doesn't. 00:04:30
Illuminate your yard So again I. 00:04:33
I'd like the Council to consider getting the planning people to put something in place. 00:04:39
Thank you. Thank you very much. 00:04:45
Looking at you, Kim. 00:04:57
Nothing. 00:04:59
You came all the way over here. Well, I wanted to hear Andy. 00:05:04
Kim Duffy, 2195 Walker Lane I'm trying not to repeat everything that he said, but the answer I get to a lot of questions that I 00:05:09
have is no, we can't do that. It's private property rights. Private property rights. But when somebody buys a property and 00:05:16
installs lighting that come into my bedroom, where do their property rights end and when do mine begin? 00:05:24
I didn't anticipate that Walker Lane would be the sort of trendsetter for obnoxious lighting practices, but it seems to be. I have 00:05:32
two empty lots to the east of me and one empty lot to the South of me. 00:05:39
And if they install lighting anything like those other houses on Walker Lane, I'll go. 00:05:46
That and then I'll be in here every month driving you bats. Thank you. Thanks. 00:05:51
Anybody else for public comment? 00:06:01
Thanks so much for coming out. We'll close public comment and move to item number four on the agenda. 00:06:05
This is the rezone application on 6571 S Big Cottonwood Rd. from residential multifamily RM office to research development to 00:06:10
office research and development Ord. This was in the packet last last council meeting. We had the public hearing and close the 00:06:18
public hearing had a pretty brief discussion about it. I think had presentations from both. 00:06:27
City staff and the applicant. 00:06:37
So I would ask the Council, we've got the applicant is here as well as Mr. Tierlink, who I believe presented on behalf of staff, 00:06:39
any questions before we take a motion on this rezoning application. 00:06:47
Mr. Mayor, I move that we adopt ordinance 20/24/15 amending the zoning map for. 00:06:58
The property located at 6571 S Big Cottonwood Canyon Rd. From residential multifamily to office research and development zone. 00:07:04
Second, OK, we have a motion and a second Council member. Gray yes. Councilmember Quinn, yes. Councilmember Fotheringham, Yes. 00:07:12
Councilmember Durham, yes. And chair vote just that rezone application is approved. Thank you, Council. 00:07:18
Item number 5 on the agenda is the advice and consent of four new nominees to the Arts Council. We got to meet three of them 00:07:25
across the hall prior to this meeting. 00:07:32
And I was trying to pull up my packet or turn on my screen. 00:07:39
So these would be. 00:07:53
Three-year terms beginning on October 1st going through September 30th of 2027. And we got to me, as I said, we got to meet three 00:07:55
of the four. So if there's no questions or comment from council, we can take a motion on approving the advice and consent of these 00:08:03
four new additions to our Arts Council. Mr. Mayor, I move approval of Resolution 2024, Dash 28. 00:08:10
Granting our advice and consent from the Council to the appointment of four members to the Holiday Arts Council. 00:08:19
These members being Isla Johnson, Carol Speckman Moss, Susan McFarland and Eileen Schwai Shui. 00:08:26
Second OK motion and 2nd Council member Gray yes, Council member Quinn yes, Council member Fotheringham yes Council member Durham 00:08:35
yes and chair vote just those four new nominees are approved and. 00:08:42
I see two of them here. Again, thanks for your willingness to serve on that council. 00:08:51
A city manager report. 00:08:56
Two quick items for me. First, at the urging of council member Gray, city staff met with representatives from the Meals on Wheels 00:09:01
program and we are going to be partnering with that organization for a route twice a month. 00:09:11
Supported by city staff and we hope by City Council members if you are interested in participating. And we think it would be 00:09:21
roughly once every two to three months for each individual. 00:09:28
Please read it, reach out to Lena and she will coordinate a schedule going forward. We're really excited about the opportunity and 00:09:35
thank you for pointing us in that direction. 00:09:41
The second item I just wanted to make the council aware of and I will send you an e-mail notification, but I'm going to be out of 00:09:48
town from September 27th to October 14th and we'll miss the next council meeting. Holly Smith will be acting city manager during 00:09:56
that time and so if you have any issues that come up during that time period, please let Holly know. 00:10:03
That's it for me. Any questions? 00:10:13
Anything for Gina? 00:10:18
Have fun. 00:10:20
All right, Emily, let's start with you and we'll just work our way down, work our way down the line. 00:10:25
So there are some really exciting things going on in my district. I, I don't know who knows this, there's some big changes 00:10:31
happening at Cottonwood High School. I think it's going to start next year, probably implemented. 00:10:38
The following year, there's two big changes. The 1st is that the Ames Charter School that is housed in Cottonwood High School will 00:10:45
now be under the auspices of Granite School District. 1 of the results of that will be that. 00:10:53
Cottonwood students will be able to take classes from Ames and vice versa, so there'll be more interaction. 00:11:03
They're also going to increase the cap of the number of students, so they're going to, they're talking about about 200 more 00:11:09
students. 00:11:12
It will increase the class offerings for Cottonwood students and. 00:11:16
And there won't be as many class conflicts. That's the first big change. The second change is even bigger is that Granite School 00:11:21
District has just finalized an agreement with Salt Lake Community College to offer a full associate's degree program at Cottonwood 00:11:27
High School through Salt Lake Community College so students can start as freshmen and continue on and graduate with an associate's 00:11:34
degree. 00:11:41
So it's it's a huge bonus for Cottonwood High School. 00:11:48
And all our students from holiday that attend Cottonwood and I think it's going to do a lot to revitalize that school and that 00:11:52
network. So we're really excited about that for all of our students that go through that network. 00:11:58
That's good news, I guess. Really good news. It's really exciting. 00:12:06
I don't have anything tonight. 00:12:14
Paul 2 items we had. The Arts Council had a dance event last Friday night. 00:12:16
Kind of a shorter notice thing. We was kind of like a pop-up dance concert. 00:12:24
And by SB Dance and I was not able to attend given a family wedding, but I heard it was really interesting. I had sort of a tarot 00:12:28
card theme and about 150 ish, 160 ish people in attendance. I think we may, you know, resurrect that in future years and build 00:12:37
that audience. And then secondly, on September 27th is our makeup concert. 00:12:45
For Severn Bridges Rd. which is part of the summer concert series but was rained out because that's been rescheduled. 00:12:54
For Friday, September 27th, but at 7:00, not the traditional summertime 8:00. 00:13:00
So be there. 00:13:07
That's all I have. 00:13:08
I have a couple of items. One. 00:13:11
I was able to attend the ribbon cutting that Anne Francis Garcia put together for Real Taqueria was a really great event. They 00:13:14
were opening their new patio and and had some members of the business advisory committee there and a mariachi band. 00:13:22
And it was great to meet with the owner. He's he started that restaurant when he was 20 years old. 00:13:31
And right at the beginning of the pandemic and has survived and lasted five years and opened a new patio. So that was really fun. 00:13:37
I also attended the Happy Healthy Holiday Coalition meeting this week and a couple of things from that meeting. 00:13:46
Wanted to thank Holly for being the chair of that coalition for a long time and getting it up and running. And she's passed the 00:13:54
baton to Molly Sullivan, who's the new president of the coalition, and we're excited about that, but wanted to thank Holly for all 00:13:59
her hard work because she's really done a great job. 00:14:04
And then also just let you know that there will be an organ donation informational event here at City Hall on the 26th, I think at 00:14:11
7. Is that right, Holly? 00:14:16
7:00 So if you have constituents that are interested or if you're interested, you could attend that meeting. 00:14:22
That's all. All right, just a couple of things. Youth Council met last night and they had a couple of represent representatives 00:14:30
from UPD come in. Unified Police come in. 00:14:35
Officer Ali. 00:14:43
Clayton Paris, I think it's Paris now from special victims. 00:14:44
That's who they wanted to speak to him and I think they had their eyes opened a little bit by that presentation and then we had. 00:14:50
Oh, Sergeant. 00:14:58
Watson and K9 officer Cash. 00:15:01
Was there and it came in here and we had a little demonstration, but they both did. Chief, if you'd pass along or give me their 00:15:05
addresses, I'll write them a little note. But I thought they both did an excellent job and I think the Youth Council. 00:15:11
Was very interested in. 00:15:17
You know what they what they had to say, but also it gave them a little bit of and we're hoping we get more of this. 00:15:20
Out in the community that talking about shared services and how important it is and why it's important. And I know Lena's been 00:15:27
speaking with some of the other Pios from around the UPD family to start getting a collective message out to our community about 00:15:35
why we belong to these unified models and what it brings to our community. And I think they were able to see the level of 00:15:42
professionalism that were able to develop inside these shared services nodes, whether it be. 00:15:50
Victims or canine or SWAT or violent crimes or forensics. And it's the same with unified fire. 00:15:58
So I thought that was great. I'm really looking forward to seeing if we can. 00:16:05
Cobble together a message that we can all start putting out to our communities about the importance of these shared services 00:16:11
models and why they're so great for our communities. 00:16:16
So I thought that was great. So thank you to them. Had a great presentation Monday night. 00:16:22
Kim from. 00:16:28
Doctor. 00:16:31
Erlinger It was really, really good. I was fascinated by it. Although the people that love trees in the community probably would 00:16:34
be surprised to learn that there weren't very, very many, if any trees in the valley when The Pioneers. 00:16:43
Walked in from immigration but he talked about. 00:16:52
The evolution of the ecosystem here since 1847, I guess, but it was really interesting. And just to put on your calendars, you've 00:16:57
got another great presentation coming up. I think October 7th. Ellis Ivory is going to be speaking, is that right? And that should 00:17:05
be that should be really good. But I really appreciate the historical Commission these these. 00:17:13
Umm, just real quick too, we're going to have a follow up conversation. Emily spearheaded a conversation around the Promise 00:17:52
program that really started in South Salt Lake and Mill Creek around. I think the overriding goal is trying to get 100% graduation 00:17:59
rates, especially in, in, in those title one schools in Mill Creek and, and South Salt Lake. But we're trying to expand that 00:18:06
conversation to Cottonwood High and see if there's a role that the city can play. 00:18:14
Participating in that. So that's kind of a stay tuned. I think they're trying to put a meeting, a face to face meeting together to 00:18:21
see if there's a place for holiday in that effort. 00:18:27
And oh, and the Meals on Wheels. I just want to. 00:18:34
Echo that, that's a great program, and if you do have time, it doesn't take a lot of time. 00:18:40
It's a county program. It's fabulous. I've done it before and it's very rewarding. If you can find the time every couple of months 00:18:46
to volunteer an hour ago, deliver those meals. So get with Lena on that one. I think she's the point of contact. 00:18:52
And that's all I have. So we are going to. 00:18:59
Reconvene City Council in a work session and for item A to Salt Lake County public safety bond presentation. We're going to stay 00:19:04
here and once once that is complete, we'll move across all. So I'll just take a motion on that. 00:19:09
Close to the Council and reconvene in a work session. 00:19:17
2nd, we have a motion to second. All in favor say aye aye. We are adjourned as Council and we're reconvening in a work session. 00:19:20
Is she here? 00:19:34
Oh, OK. 00:19:38
All right. Yes, do we need to? We'll let you guys do introductions. You're on our agenda, but we'll let you introduce what you're 00:19:41
going to talk about. As I, as I mentioned to you previously, we have in our packet the presentation in PowerPoint. The Council has 00:19:48
gone through the presentation and we'll leave it up to you guys to kind of hit the high points with us. 00:19:55
Welcome. 00:20:03
I'm Ann Granado. I'm the County Council member for this area. This is Katherine Fife, the deputy mayor. She's going to go through 00:20:05
the bond. 00:20:09
In general, and then I'm going to explain why the Council is in favor of this. I apologize that our backs are to the. 00:20:15
People, because this is a bond issue, this will be on the ballot and public engagement is absolutely critical. So I'm going to 00:20:23
leave these handouts of the presentation with Gina for anyone that has any questions. 00:20:30
After the presentation or anyone in the city that wants to ask questions. 00:20:39
But as the council member said, Salt Lake County is moving a bond question to the public to finance significant county wide 00:21:14
criminal justice system needs and improvements. 00:21:19
So it's really important to understand this didn't just come out of the blue. It's been years in the making. Actually, I do want 00:21:24
to just mention that our Salt Lake County Jail has not had a single bed added since 2001. 00:21:32
And population growth has occurred and there are capital maintenance needs, deferred capital maintenance needs that are abundant. 00:21:40
So those are some really important critical things that you know, have been happening leading up to years that really informed and 00:21:45
really are are making this a necessity at this point. In addition to that, there's a lot of conversation about criminal justice 00:21:51
reform, how we're doing things in Salt Lake County, how we're addressing mental health, substance use, you know, those behavioral 00:21:57
health needs of individuals. 00:22:03
And also how we are making sure that we're addressing. 00:22:10
All of our needs within our county, deferred maintenance and otherwise. So we got together and whose responsibility is it? What 00:22:17
does the county need to do? How are we working together with our municipal and state partners, our private nonprofits, other 00:22:23
experts in the area to address like holistic needs and intersecting issues with criminal justice, especially with with mental 00:22:29
health and those who are unhoused or housing insecure? 00:22:35
We want to make sure that we have the ability to address all of those issues if we have to work on one. Let's look at how they do 00:22:42
intersect and how we can work on those together. So Salt Lake County leaders have been working with other leadership and experts 00:22:49
from internally, other department, all those departments as well as leadership at the state level and municipal level too. The 00:22:56
council voted in a bipartisan manner to support putting this ballot. 00:23:03
Or putting this initiative on the ballot. 00:23:11
And it was a bipartisan 8 to one vote. Really want to make sure that we talk about that because it is important to everyone in our 00:23:13
community to make sure our communities are safe and our community members have the resources that they need to live, you know, 00:23:18
self-sufficient and and fulfilling lives. 00:23:24
We want to make sure that you understand that Governor Cox is supportive of this, as well as other municipal leaders. We've worked 00:23:30
really closely with other mayors and council members throughout the county. Next slide, please. 00:23:36
So this bond is also a part of a larger plan. I really want to emphasize that part of those discussions. And looking at our whole 00:23:45
entire system throughout the county was really important to us. We've identified a lot of needs, including housing, a need for 00:23:52
additional housing throughout the county. We also recognized a need for, you know, all sorts of criminal justice reform, not just 00:24:00
redoing our jail, but also looking at training for crisis response for law. 00:24:07
Officers looking at more enforcement of addressing our drug crisis in the community. In fact, the council and the mayor have put 00:24:15
forward. 00:24:19
In approved in a budget, our budget we're using opioid settlement dollars, two new DEA officers. Really we're working on this 00:24:25
urgently. We want to make sure that this is something that we're working together on and looking at everything we can to make sure 00:24:30
that holistically we're taking care of our community. 00:24:35
All right, So let's talk about the solutions here. So part of this plan that we talked about there's OK. So I just want to kind of 00:24:41
back up that Salt Lake County and Mayor Wilson put forward an action plan that as you can see, these solutions of needs in the 00:24:47
community, it's expanding housing, the criminal justice reform and the bond is really tied to that. And I think it shows that in 00:24:54
the next slide. 00:25:00
Yes, right here. So we can see we have solutions as part of a big plan, but what we're talking about tonight is the bond and 00:25:08
there's really a couple of different components to that. Bond 1 is building a justice and accountability center and one is 00:25:14
improving and expanding the gel and mental health unit within our gel system. Next slide, please. 00:25:20
So let's talk about the Justice and Accountability Center for just a moment. What we know is that there are individuals who are 00:25:28
who are. 00:25:32
Going to jail, they are interacting with law enforcement frequently. They are being arrested for crimes that they're not held in 00:25:37
jail for. So they're small or some people call them petty crimes or low level crimes. They are people in crisis not knowing what 00:25:44
to do or how to help somebody who is having a mental health crisis or have are using substances. 00:25:51
So in the Justice and Accountability Center, it'll be a place for stabilization so law enforcement, our mental health crisis teams 00:26:28
can say this is where we need to have somebody go instead of just back to the streets and and cycling through our systems. 00:26:36
So that Justice and Accountability Center, what one of the things we also saw as a gap in our system is residential treatment for 00:26:45
mental health, those experiencing mental health issues. We have a deficit of of resources and units focused on mental health. And 00:26:52
so part of the Justice and Accountability Center will include at least 16 residential treatment beds for those who the de facto 00:26:59
arrest, go in jail and cycle. We have another option. We are doing things differently. We're better able to serve them. 00:27:07
Stabilize them and get them connected with long term treatment and resources from there. 00:27:15
So it will be a stable place and it will be basically a stabilization facility really focused on keeping people out of the 00:27:21
criminal justice system and really reducing recidivism rates. All right, next slide please. This is in combination with our 00:27:28
revamping our gel right now you may know that we have an OXPO facility and the adult detention center. We have two facilities that 00:27:35
are part make up our county jail part this what this bond will do is decommission. 00:27:43
Oxbow and we'll look at expanding our existing adult detention center. What we'll do is expand the bed so we'll have more beds. As 00:27:50
I mentioned before, since 2001, no new beds but. 00:27:56
Growth, population growth really high. So we need to just make sure that we are planning for now and in the future of being able 00:28:03
to serve the community and hold people accountable and hold people in jail because really it is that capacity. We're using those 00:28:08
beds all the time. 00:28:12
What we need, part of the adult detention center and the jail will also include doubling our mental health unit. So making sure 00:28:18
that those who need to be in jail and held accountable that also are facing a mental health issues that they have those supports 00:28:24
as well. So we're able to really make sure that accountability and those mental health issues are addressed together in better 00:28:30
ways than we ever have before. And then we're also going to include some step down beds or some people call them community 00:28:36
correction center beds. 00:28:42
Lives and will help you know make sure that that's kind of a step in back re-enter into society way. So and that will really 00:29:18
complement the justice and accountability center as well. So just want to make sure you understand that we're revamping the whole 00:29:25
gel to better serve individuals, making sure they don't come back and our community when they are released and make sure that our 00:29:32
community is ready to welcome them when they are released back from jail when they've served their time. 00:29:39
Next slide, please. 00:29:47
These are FAQs. We don't really need to go over them too much. Please look at them. These are just answering common questions. I 00:29:50
think these are good to to have available for constituents or as people have questions. These are just some common things that we 00:29:54
get. Next slide, please. 00:29:59
Here's what everybody asks. 00:30:05
It's a big question. What's the bond amount right here? Is listed as 507 million. 00:30:07
I do want to recognize that the cost it was actually, it actually is 607 million, but thanks to our prudent County Council for 00:30:13
setting aside 100 million for this purpose. Ready to make sure that the taxpayers burden is less. So we wanted to make sure we 00:30:21
were bonding for as little as possible to make sure we were doing the right things. But so we do the the we do have the 100 00:30:28
million that was set aside and then we will and then you can see the breakdown of the other costs. 00:30:35
What does this mean to our taxpayers? For residents, based upon an average property value in Salt Lake County of $602,000, it 00:30:43
would be for less than $5.00 a month. So $4.91 a month per residence and per business, $8.93. 00:30:53
Right. Next slide. 00:31:03
Here's the bond language. This is what will be on the ballot. It describes the different components that are included in the in in 00:31:05
the bond and that amount of the 507 million. Again, it's acquiring and constructing injustice and accountability center, combining 00:31:13
the two gels into one increasing capacity addressing the really needed. 00:31:21
Capital maintenance on the existing Correctional Facility in addition to expanding it. 00:31:31
And really just making sure that all of our county public safety facilities and ancillary buildings are safe and ready to do what 00:31:36
they're meant to do for our community. 00:31:41
All right, so I went through this really fast. 00:31:48
But if you have any questions, again, there's the website. We have Brad Townley who is working on setting up follow-up 00:31:51
conversations. So if there's constituents, if there's groups, or if you would like us to at any time come back or speak to anyone 00:31:58
else within, you know, within Holiday City, we are happy to do that as well. And Brad can help arrange that. Of course. You know, 00:32:05
we're happy to be here and always have conversations about this too. It is a lot. 00:32:12
And we want to make sure that the community, that all of our county residents are educated on this. And so that's why we're here 00:32:19
tonight. And we're committed to doing that, you know, up until the election and beyond. So. 00:32:25
Both the mayor's office and the council's office realized that this is a big ask. 00:32:33
And so we want to stress that this was a long time in the analysis. It was a deep dive. And the point that is very important is 00:32:39
that it was drafted from a perspective of looking at the current system, deciding what the gaps were and going out and doing 00:32:49
research both locally and nationally how do we best fill the existing gaps. And that was the basis for coming. 00:32:59
With the plan and the bond. 00:33:10
It's important to know that the two things that we need to stress are integration and continuity. So I'm going to speak to you 00:33:14
both as a council member, but as a boots on the ground, my day job is working for Medicaid at the state and it's working with the 00:33:23
members that are most directly affected by the by the jail. 00:33:31
Mental health, I work with them every day so I'm able to see what is needed and I'm able to see the way that the county, through 00:33:41
this bond is addressing what happens when people are incarcerated is they are released from jail. If they have been receiving 00:33:48
mental health treatment along with medication in the jail and they're released and they're on the street, they're going to be 00:33:56
cycling back through the jail repeatedly. What? 00:34:03
This bond do about this, the center that is being built with the decommissioning of the Oxbow and the state's new waiver that 00:34:11
should be in place and approved in November, it's waiver 1115 offers a whole new view of this. What they will receive is that when 00:34:18
they are in jail 90 days before they are scheduled to be released, they will be made eligible for Medicaid, which means that 00:34:26
Medicaid. 00:34:33
Will pick up the cost of their mental health and their medication care. They will receive continuous treatment throughout that 90 00:34:41
days. They will be released from jail with 30 days of medication, an appointment with the substance abuse group and housing 00:34:48
alternatives. So this is where the integration comes. They've realized that mental health and physical health are completely 00:34:56
intertwined. 00:35:03
You can't address 1 without addressing the other, so this is a full service bond. It's going to hit at each point where there have 00:35:11
been gaps in the past and bring the continuity of treatment. It will work with the MCAT teams that the county has been able able 00:35:18
to advance. It will work with the Huntsman. 00:35:25
Facility that is just coming online, it will find these people where they are at and it will give them the resources that they 00:35:33
need to not keep cycling back through both the jail and the mental health treatment. So by identifying the gaps, the mayor's 00:35:39
office. 00:35:46
And fully supported by the County Council has found ways to feel each of these gaps to make it a full service. 00:35:53
Approach. Does anybody have any questions? 00:36:03
I just have a couple. Do you anticipate or is there data that will show if there's going to be any impact to the homelessness 00:36:10
issue by bringing these facilities, you know, expanding the jail and then adding the justice and Accountability Center to the 00:36:17
inventory? Or is this a separate population from that? It's an integrated population. 00:36:25
For for a large number of the people that are homeless, it is because of mental illness issues. 00:36:34
And so by bringing them in, helping them find stable housing, helping them get the mental health treatment they need and keeping 00:36:40
track of where they are at, not just releasing them. 00:36:47
There is no data that I know of that is going to project what will happen in the future. I know that the mayor has gone out to 00:36:55
several different cities throughout the country and looked at different programs that are already in place to assess and there are 00:37:02
a lot of them out there. I believe they went to Washington state, didn't they went went to to Washington County in Portland to see 00:37:10
what they're doing because they have a significant homeless problem. 00:37:17
So they've looked at different approaches throughout. 00:37:24
This the nation. I think that. 00:37:30
When I was in a meeting represent our former Senator Niederhauser, who is now the homelessness czar, he had gone to Texas to look 00:37:34
at some different approaches. So they have tried to see what is out there. They have tried to see what is working and what is not. 00:37:43
And that's the program that they've come up with saying these are our gaps, this is what we can bring in to fill the gaps. 00:37:52
And there will be constant monitoring. 00:38:01
And if there needs to be a change, there will be a change, but there will be constant monitoring of how each different approach is 00:38:04
working. 00:38:09
That I can say from personal experience. The single biggest problem is mental is is lack of continuity in mental health 00:38:14
medication. They start them on medication, they see improvement, and once they're released from the jail, there's no follow up. So 00:38:23
between the bond, the improvements at the jail and the waiver at the state level, there are going to be resources. 00:38:31
To fill in the mental health gap. 00:38:40
Absolutely. 00:38:45
Yeah, thank you. I think she described really well what helped inform this solution, which is not the solution to everything. And 00:38:46
I want to just go back. About a year ago, Mayor Wilson, Governor Cox Mayorman and Holloway Niederhauser got together and signed an 00:38:53
agreement to say how they were each going to be committed to working on addressing issues that are intersecting behavioral health, 00:38:59
homelessness, criminal justice. 00:39:05
And part of and what Mayor Wilson in Salt Lake County committed to are the areas where we have the authority over and the. 00:39:12
Ability to do so relooking at the gel, looking at our behavioral health issues. So the state and specifically Wayne who is focused 00:39:19
really on homelessness have other solutions that are specifically for individuals who are experiencing homelessness. In fact, the 00:39:27
legislature approved 25,000,000 to create additional year round shelter beds for individuals experiencing homelessness. What this 00:39:34
bond is doing is helping like it's it's a comprehensive plan that all need to succeed. 00:39:42
In order for us to really see an impact in our community, individuals who are experiencing homelessness certainly cycle through 00:39:50
the gel. We see about 1/4 of the gel each day has individuals who are housing insecure or who are homeless. In fact, we have a 00:39:57
dashboard that shows self identified how many individuals are in our gel at each point in time who are experiencing homelessness. 00:40:05
But however, this is not a homeless shelter or just a resource for those experiencing homelessness. 00:40:12
This is really looking at the entire, I mean, this is part of a comprehensive plan that Salt Lake County has identified this what 00:40:20
we can do, But we know that others are working on pieces that will help populations who are intersecting with all of our issues or 00:40:28
all of these systems as well. I know homelessness is a really complicated, multifaceted problem, but this could be. 00:40:37
A piece of it, a piece it will, it will help. And then I just had one more question. I can't get my computer to work, but is it 00:40:46
Did I see in the report that you're going to bring on 12? 00:40:51
Is it 12 DEA is it DEA agents? Is that and I may ask the chief this too, but is that an expansion of the the current DEA 00:40:57
allocation in the county right now and and chief, are we I'm trying to remember in our budgeting if we're still. 00:41:07
Putting a portion of our budget to that or is that a different, is that gangs or wait trying to think. 00:41:18
Yeah, there was a conversation about. 00:41:25
OK, so, but this would, this would expand the amount of agents that the county had currently has. It would yes. And I, I mentioned 00:41:29
when I was just speaking that the County Council approved 2 DEA agents that actually with right with the county right now with 00:41:36
the, with the UPD switch, we actually made sure that we would maintain with that decision. We're maintaining our DEA officers in 00:41:43
Salt Lake County, but we know that we have a drug crisis. 00:41:50
And an epidemic and opioid epidemic that we need to address. And so our DEA agents expansion of that will help address that 00:41:58
crisis. So is it going to go from 2:00 to 12:00? Are we? Yeah. So it would, well, it's not 2 that we've already done 2. It would 00:42:06
be 12 additional over five years. So we're looking at in the plan which the Mayor's action plan, which the bond is a part of it, 00:42:13
it includes other pieces, which is the DEA agents expanding over the next five years. Yes. 00:42:21
Well, and a part of this waiver is becoming online is going to make a difference to the county. Right now the county bears the 00:42:28
entire expense of mental health treatment and medication. And by bringing on the Medicaid piece and getting people in that are 00:42:35
qualified enrolled in Medicaid early, they will be picking up the cost of some of the mental health treatment and the medications 00:42:41
in the jail. 00:42:48
Plus, the waiver will bring on additional mental health support staff, and that is one of the most difficult. 00:42:55
Problems that the county has faced is finding qualified mental health. 00:43:02
Personnel and so we'll be able to hire some more mental health personnel at the jail and expand the availability of treatment. 00:43:08
I'm just looking at the plan to make sure I don't misquote. So the the plan said 12 total. We have done the two. So it's ten 00:43:17
additional over the next five years. So and we've kind of caught we've we've planned it out over the next five years. We want to 00:43:24
expand it year over year to get to an additional 10 from what we have now. Thank you. 00:43:31
I just want to now regarding the bond though. 00:43:40
As I'm looking at this particular page, the bond is primarily about bricks and mortar and beds, right? It's facilities, not 00:43:44
programs and Medicaid funding. 00:43:49
And so I'm presuming that you talk about a waiver that's going to then provide us some funding or funding offset by the state for 00:43:56
the the Medicaid piece, right? 00:44:02
And because you mentioned earlier that the primary problem or the biggest problem is that continuity of mental treatment, mental 00:44:10
care treatment, and that's the biggie. 00:44:16
If I'm repeating back to you what you said, but there's a little bit of a disconnect to me about that and the bond because the 00:44:24
bond is about facilities. 00:44:29
And facilities may be a different problem. But facilities is not Medicaid funding. 00:44:35
It is a combined solution to a gap because what it does is one of the biggest problems now that I experience with the. 00:44:40
Medicaid prop. With the Medicaid program is that people cycle through treatment and they're not there long enough. They can be 00:44:51
assigned to say Odyssey House, for example, but they can leave at any time. 00:44:58
So they cycle through a lot of treatment options. By going into the jail 90 days ahead, you're getting them on a pathway for an 00:45:05
extended period of time that then allow the connection of coming out of the jail and what the bond works with is getting them. 00:45:14
Further treatment? Getting them housing, getting them signed up with a substance abuse counselor. 00:45:25
Getting them the mental health meds that they need so it's not just an in revolving door. 00:45:31
That means so these facilities are in order to keep them in custody longer, but in different sorts of facilities. 00:45:38
Longer it intervenes sooner before they're released. 00:45:45
So now, yes, they may receive mental health treatment in the jail, but the minute they're released, there's nothing there. So if 00:45:50
they have 90 days of Medicaid coverage, which adds funds, then they are, then they're on a pathway and they are, they are 00:45:57
connected to services when they leave the jail. They're not just released from jail, they're connected to services when they leave 00:46:05
the jail. And but we need to have these facilities in order to. 00:46:12
The program you're talking about because our current facilities are inadequate for backing up the services. 00:46:20
That you want to provide earlier in the process. 00:46:27
The jail is the pilot program for the state. 00:46:32
That we'll go back to CMS to show what is being done, where the gaps are being filled and why we need this waiver. So the jail is 00:46:36
already involved as the pilot. 00:46:43
Or the state. So they are already in the loop and already working through and there will be statistics. 00:46:50
From what they do with the state. 00:46:57
I think the council member is showing that how these the Medicaid waiver and this bond complement one another and you are correct 00:47:01
with the bond builds these facilities and we know that we need to make sure that they are operational both staffing wise as well 00:47:08
as the resources. And so the Medicaid waiver will help tremendously and we have a pro forma or we have a proposed budget for the 00:47:16
staffing that we. 00:47:23
Comfortable not that it won't be a burden on taxpayers to operate this gel once it is with, you know, no additional tax. But this 00:47:31
bond does not include the operations. The expansion of the mental health facility at the jail gives us the ability to to achieve 00:47:38
extra services. 00:47:45
Did that answer your question? 00:47:55
All right. Really quick. Since the Medicaid piece is a state funded piece, I'm curious. 00:48:00
Is the state looking at expanding this? 00:48:06
Treatment before release to other jails in the state. 00:48:12
It's a statewide program, but the Salt Lake County Jail is the pilot. 00:48:17
So they're already working with Matt DuMont. 00:48:23
Because that's where they're going to need the statistics and the support when they go back to their waiver has been approved in 00:48:27
November, they have to go back to CMS with concrete facts. That's what what the Salt Lake County Jail is being the pilot is going 00:48:33
to provide to you. 00:48:39
Thank you. 00:48:46
So are you. You're not waiting until these new facilities are built to start implementing this program with Medicaid, is that 00:48:48
correct? 00:48:53
Doctor Jenn Strowhecker at The State is Over DHHS. 00:49:00
Is the one that is guiding this through. 00:49:06
We want to and the mayor's action plan that, you know, it includes the bond. There are other pieces like the approval of the DEA 00:49:10
agents, the funding for that, that we don't want to wait for. We know that there's a lot of work to be done to better care for 00:49:18
individuals who are cycling through many systems. And we know and there's commitment from the state, municipal and county Level 2 00:49:25
on better ways that we can reform our criminal justice system, but it is urgent. 00:49:32
We are, we are making sure that as we are educating and waiting for this bond to see if it's going to pass or not. We are not 00:49:40
waiting on every other piece of the plan that both Salt Lake County is really working on. And as you heard from the council 00:49:47
member, this state as well. We are I think at a very interesting unique time where there is alignment on different levels of 00:49:54
government also with our private nonprofits, our treatment providers. 00:50:00
And we are working together. 00:50:07
Cross party to really say we, we, we're working together, knowing what we all are responsible for coordinating and moving it 00:50:10
forward in the best way we can. 00:50:15
Well, thank you for taking time out of your schedules to come and educate us on this bond. I know it's going to be a big issue. 00:50:24
Come November and thank you to Councilmember Granada for your long and dedicated service to the citizens of Holiday. We appreciate 00:50:31
it. 00:50:35
And Drew was an excellent judge for us. She did many. 00:50:39
Excellent judge, so thank you. 00:50:45
Thanks a lot. Thank you. 00:50:52
OK, with that, we'll take just a couple minute break and relocate across the hallway. 00:50:55
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