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Yes, we are. 00:00:07
OK. Well, thanks everybody. And we'll come with Holiday City Council meeting. We're on 5/5 and 3rd. 00:00:08
A couple of things real quick that many. 00:00:19
Not pretty much everybody because we've got a few more people because the boundary study. But this is a work session. You don't 00:00:23
have anything scheduled for both. We have some public comment like it's just. 00:00:28
And open the session. These are all open meetings for the public, but you're not going to. We won't have public comment and we 00:00:34
won't be voting on interface tonight, so. 00:00:38
Reviewing what's been agenda, I don't know if anybody's here well. 00:00:43
I wasn't having been bringing up with you. 00:00:48
So we will just get right to it. And the first time on the agenda is the ground school district boundary presentation. We have 00:00:52
Steve Hovind here from from Granite School District to update us. 00:00:57
Just have a little bit of introduction. 00:01:04
We have been through this before, we went through a couple of years ago. 00:01:06
On the the West side of the West side of the east side of the district. 00:01:10
And resulted in a couple of schools who were familiar with the issues. 00:01:15
Surrounding this but are looking forward to seeing. 00:01:20
Umm, where you're at in this process and then what? The council asking. 00:01:24
Steve will turn it over to you, then your stuff's in the packet and. 00:01:29
Everybody's reviewed it and we'll let you start walking through so. 00:01:34
Thank you for pulling that up. 00:01:39
And I just give her a slow beat. Yeah, Just kind of yeah. 00:01:41
So thanks again for having me. My name is Steve Holden. I'm the Director of Planning and Boundaries for Grant School Instruction. 00:01:45
I've been in this position on Granite for about 28 years and this position, this is my 11th year. Before that, a teacher and a 00:01:53
coach and administrator. 00:01:57
All throughout the district. I just tell you that tell you that I'm not a. 00:02:02
I'm not a numbers guy. I'm not a demographer. 00:02:06
But I'm glad I have this perspective as we're taking these challenges. So I'll go through these pretty quick week. 00:02:09
And stop if you want me to go back to slides, if you want me to really want to say much anything questions come up so. 00:02:16
So again, this is what we call the Area 5 elementary study. We just have split the district up and the five geographic areas. 00:02:24
There's nothing really sacred about those lines that they give us a pretty good area to focus on. 00:02:30
We have studied really and parts of the other four areas and this is one of the last areas that we have not studied. We did begin 00:02:36
a study about 3 or 4 years ago. 00:02:41
In addition to the when the workflows, but there were some things that were tabled. 00:02:46
So now we're back to this area that the main thing I want you to know is this is an elementary focused spec. 00:02:50
So that if out obtained this or. 00:02:56
Potential closures are focused on elementary. 00:02:59
Could there be secondary closure or not? Closers or changes? They could be, but only as a byproduct of what happens that we are 00:03:02
measuring. 00:03:06
So let me clarify what I just said. We don't anticipate any secondary closures period. 00:03:10
The field pattern changes or potential boundary changes for secondary schools. Maybe that does sometimes happen when we change 00:03:15
things at the elementary level, as I thought about that. 00:03:20
You can see the map and the elementaries involved here. We have Oakwood in there. 00:03:26
It was, it's kind of been involved two or three times over the last several years, but it's kind of been that. 00:03:31
Boundary area and part of the Oakwood boundary you can see in that bottom corner is in fact in this area. But we thought we'd just 00:03:36
go ahead and include it. It would be easier to include it first of all than to try to include it later. So, but we don't 00:03:42
anticipate significant changes there. 00:03:47
These are the schools, the names of the schools, and this paper is very important. The FCI is the facility condition index is the 00:03:55
ranking of simply a ranking of the lower the number, the more health. Quite frankly, that building means no building on there is 00:04:01
unsafe. We don't have. 00:04:06
Students and have safe buildings, but if it's the lower number it means for maintenance and it's closer to a remodel or the bill. 00:04:12
Enrollment from these past years, executing enrollment next year and then approximate capacity. 00:04:21
Always list capacities as approximately because it really varies depending on what you mean by capacity, but those are the best. 00:04:28
So why? Why are we conducting this study? Bottom line, it comes down to enrollments and defining enrollments. 00:04:39
So let's go to a couple of slides here. 203, this is a 20 year snapshot and just 2020 year. 00:04:45
You can see those back to about 68,000 if you go beyond that permit district has been over 70,000. 00:04:51
That's back in the days, maybe relying year round schools and non traditional schedules and real capable classrooms everywhere. 00:04:57
We went a different phase, but now we've gone down to this past year of about 55,000. 00:05:04
55,000 students. Now the next slide is a little scarier. It shows the next five year projection. 00:05:11
This is not just our projection, but this is a demographic company we hire and consult with to. 00:05:18
To look at our data and they've confirmed our data and that is that we in Granite District are expecting to go down. 00:05:25
More unfortunately, approximately 1000 students a year. 00:05:32
Each year in the next five years. 00:05:37
So it's district Y nothing that's. 00:05:39
That consisted at around 45 to 47,000 in 2029. 00:05:43
Next slide. This illustrates really this isn't a Granite District issue. 00:05:52
This, this slide shows you the state. And I just want you to understand this isn't a blip on the screen. We're not closing stores 00:05:57
because we happen to be down for a few years. 00:06:02
This is going to be 10 C Gardener Institute and they have done some great. 00:06:06
Analysis on state and demographics. 00:06:11
And this simply shows that we will continue to decline for the most part or be in some decline. 00:06:13
In for the next 10 years, at least until the next. 00:06:21
We were about 2075 ish. 00:06:25
So this decline in some areas will be worse than others. 00:06:27
The the parts of the state that will grow with Far North and Cache County, Far Slow, South of Washington County and in Utah 00:06:32
County. 00:06:35
Sully County will see some growth, but just simply not with the school age. 00:06:40
Demographics. But what I want to remember here is this both wave young Utah. This is a national, in fact global issue. Quite 00:06:45
frankly, birth rates are down everywhere. 00:06:50
You can do a quick service and you see. 00:06:55
Countries that are closing. 00:06:58
Schools, states, everywhere, birth rate is just simply down and that is the number one driver in these studies. 00:07:01
So here are some of the other factors of the amber phrase #1. 00:07:11
Residential growth. 00:07:15
Or sometimes lack of it. We are a more mature district, if you will. Our district boundaries are just just that. We're on the 00:07:17
older part of the distance. 00:07:21
We have some growth, but not nearly enough to offset birth rate issues, families moving in and out of the district, so mobility. 00:07:25
Increase in charge on private online schools. That's an issue everywhere also. 00:07:35
And I'll just say here I'm being. 00:07:40
And Granite District, we're not afraid of competition. We're fine with competition. In fact, that can be healthy and it can drive 00:07:43
us and push us. As long as we're playing by the same rules. That's that's just fine. But those are realities that we all have 00:07:48
also. And I've talked to my friends in those organizations, in fellow schools, and they have some of the same concerns. They're 00:07:53
they're not seeing the students either because they just aren't there anymore. 00:07:58
Open enrollment. We live in an open enrollment state, so students can choose to go anywhere they want. 00:08:04
I would say you just followed it up in this area. 00:08:09
Real estate crisis. 00:08:14
It's difficult. 00:08:16
It's just far more difficult in some areas more than others. They have younger families who move in to be able to afford to live 00:08:17
here. 00:08:21
With younger children, do we have some? Absolutely, but again, not enough to offset the birth rate concerns. 00:08:24
So the big question is, so why does that matter? Why does declining involvement matter? We've known for a long time the schools 00:08:32
can be too big. 00:08:35
But they can be too small. 00:08:39
That's I could spend the next hour and a half long with all the reasons the couple of slides to tell you why. 00:08:42
Why this that's an issue? Keep in mind that a lot of people there's a misnomer. Larger schools that some people think need larger 00:08:49
classrooms, more students in classroom. Smaller schools, maybe fewer students in the classroom. That's that's simply not true. 00:08:55
Because it's a student teacher ratio. If you have more students, you have more teachers, and vice versa. 00:09:03
But there's there is an economy of scale at play here with schools that that is important. 00:09:08
These are some of those what we consider benefits and consolidation or ways, also things that we get worried about with smaller 00:09:18
schools. 00:09:22
On average in our district with the average size of schools and what we're trying to accomplish is really three teachers per grade 00:09:26
level at the elementary level. 00:09:31
That means around 500 to thousands and 50 students. Again, that can vary a bit, but that's that's a matter. 00:09:35
Of that, three teacher per grade level is a. 00:09:42
A magic number we're trying to get. Again, it's a minimum. 00:09:46
So if we can hit that, that is a lot of exports, it keeps us from having some of these split grade level classrooms. 00:09:49
We see those now. 00:09:55
Fortunately, we will see more and more of those this fall as numbers look like that when I mean split grade level. 2 grades in one 00:09:56
classroom, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th and so on. 00:10:01
We have some amazing teachers that get amazing results and we have some amazing families that that provide great support for the 00:10:05
students and we do see successes anywhere. 00:10:10
Yet it is not the ideal. 00:10:16
Educational situation to have more than one grade in the classroom. So no. No. 00:10:19
Parental choice. 00:10:24
Having having the ability to choose more if you have only one teacher in the grade or sometimes 2. 00:10:26
Sometimes you need to make adjustments. You can do that. 00:10:32
There's collaboration issues balancing out class size when you have 3-4 or even sometimes five teachers on the grade level. 00:10:35
Actually, we get to balance out those class sizes. When you have one, that's what you have is 1. 00:10:41
And if you have two, oftentimes you'll see one class high and one class that's low. 00:10:48
For different reasons, and so it's an effort to balance out those class sizes. 00:10:52
If you feel more on all of these things, again that I find the scale is very important. 00:10:58
We're seeing a lot of pizza Blunt going off by granted Indian, apparently. 00:11:03
You know, it's the same parents doing the same things over and over. 00:11:07
And these committees and community councils and PTA's and so on. 00:11:10
And quite frankly, just a more efficient use of administrator to student and teacher ratios. 00:11:14
So we want to get them appropriately sized, a dual language immersion program another programs need. 00:11:20
A little larger school. It's very difficult to have those programs in smaller schools. 00:11:26
And then people asked me, Steve, is this about money or are you closing schools or recommending closures? 00:11:31
For money. 00:11:37
My answer to that is very careful. That is, we don't close to save money. 00:11:39
That we close schools that are robust school. 00:11:43
And better educational opportunities. 00:11:47
But yet in this life is most everything we do unfortunately come back to money in some way. Stuart does. If we have more money 00:11:50
from the state legislature for every district, then we could fund the schools differently. 00:11:55
Or more money for a lot of things. A lot of these things do change. So is it about money? 00:12:01
In that way, sure, you can say that not out of mind. 00:12:07
Sound disingenuous and say it's not about money, but you don't close school to try to save money. We close schools to try to get 00:12:10
them right sized by a better education. 00:12:15
This is the process. 00:12:20
It's almost a count legal process. You can just. 00:12:23
If you take time to look at that starts in February with the I go to the board and make the recommendation for areas of what to 00:12:26
study. 00:12:29
For the next several months, until June and July, we have meetings. We've had a couple of large meetings, many smaller meetings 00:12:33
already with lots of feedback. On meeting at Skyline, we had about 200. 00:12:39
At least people like this. Last week about 350. 00:12:45
And I'll continue to have many meetings. We'll try to narrow this down over the summer and get down to some. 00:12:49
Just refine that a bit and just. 00:12:57
Instead of having 10 schools, obviously we can narrow it down to. 00:12:59
2-3 Dish. 00:13:03
We have more meetings than the fall. 00:13:05
And then a final decision in December with any change we have implemented next fall. So no changes for this next school year. 00:13:07
Any changes would be fall of 26. 00:13:16
Finally wanted to more. 00:13:19
So what are you looking for? What are the factors that are considered in? The thing is you talked about enrollment, that's an 00:13:23
obvious one. 00:13:26
The facility condition can play apart. These are not prioritized, these are not in the order, I can just tell you that. 00:13:29
We've unfortunately closed 10 schools in the last five, almost six years. 00:13:36
Each study is different, and each study of different factors seems to rise to the top, but almost always it's a combination of 00:13:40
these in some way. 00:13:44
Transportation or busing? Walking routes. 00:13:49
There are fiscal considerations, district programs, benefits and consolidation. That was those two slides. There were others, but. 00:13:52
Again, every study. 00:14:00
Discussing what questions do you have and. 00:14:03
Stay as long as you. 00:14:06
Long as I can say arms length away and if not, OK. 00:14:09
Does anybody? 00:14:12
How did the special programs figure out it up? 00:14:23
So DOI, let's take that for example. When you have a program like that, it's almost like running TCPS. 00:14:27
The DOI. 00:14:34
So in a grade, you know, I want to start with two of those grades. 00:14:36
Students in VLA. 00:14:40
If you're too small, that means you have one so-called traditional class in that grade. 00:14:42
So then we're really exacerbating the problem of that issue I was talking about with one teacher at grade level. 00:14:47
We really need, and we've learned this the hard way, everybody on the state cast when the state adopted this opportunity to do DOI 00:14:53
about the 1617 years ago. 00:14:58
We looked at it as a program to attract students from out of the boundaries. In some cases that does somewhat. 00:15:02
But not as much as we thought so. 00:15:10
It just complicates ALC or advanced learning centers or gifted programs or language immersion and others. 00:15:12
We just learned. 00:15:19
Not to start this, but all over the country does. To have a program like that you need more students. 00:15:20
To balance out in those meetings because there's again. 00:15:27
You're almost running two programs, 2 schedules, two types of teachers, different things in the same building, and it's just very, 00:15:31
very difficult to do that. 00:15:36
So are the students part of like the DLF program or the ALC program? Are they included in the population in school or are they 00:15:41
kind of scared? 00:15:45
They are in these cases. I mean, people ask sometimes about the Ames program at Cottonwood. Now that's a different charter, that's 00:15:50
separate means different, all DLI. 00:15:55
ALC program service considered. 00:16:00
How about if you have data that shows? 00:16:05
We're sending to kids that are being plotting. 00:16:07
Out of boundary for his books. 00:16:11
If you go to that QR code or go to our website, at the bottom, very bottom, if you Scroll down, you'll see for every school we 00:16:13
have what we call a pivot table and it will show. 00:16:18
So let's say for Morningside over here, how many students live in that area? And then other students, where do they attend? 00:16:22
And then how many students are attending and where are they coming from? So both sides of that point. 00:16:29
So you can really look at that evaluate and that's part of. 00:16:34
The evaluation process in terms of what schools you decide. 00:16:38
And keep the candy, have you? 00:16:43
Is this just open at this point or do you guys have the target number based off your data that you think? 00:16:46
Or is it just you don't want to say at this point like because how many schools Building Schools are are thinking you need to. 00:16:53
I'll say that as soon somebody will always interpret it. That's OK. 00:17:02
To get to that number that I mentioned up there around 500, that would take 3 school closures if you just add up all the all the 00:17:06
students. 00:17:10
From both Med schools and divide that out say by 7. That gets you closer to 500. 00:17:15
But that really happens, quite frankly, if you just take all of our past studies and do the same thing and divide that space. 00:17:21
It's difficult. That's the goal, but there are other considerations, again, when you look at transportation and walking routes and 00:17:29
and programs and other needs. 00:17:33
It is hard, so sometimes we've had. 00:17:38
Couple years ago we did a study with over 20 schools and I think we had one closure. 00:17:41
Yet we've had a few years ago where we had spring wind, front peaks and no Creek. 00:17:46
And now we had 9, so we post three of the nine. 00:17:52
So everyone is just a little different. 00:17:54
So is there a target with a goal? But. 00:17:57
It's more than different numbers. 00:18:01
Way more than just those numbers. 00:18:03
So that's black. That's one of the things to remember you that came out of the condition. 00:18:05
Is that will that be an element of this? 00:18:12
Sure, that's the reason we missed it. 00:18:16
Umm, the. 00:18:19
What most people do, and I admit early on I did it myself, so when I put that table up and everybody sees that, you're going to 00:18:22
look at two things, you're going to look at a moment and your FCI. 00:18:26
Something that's gonna be doing. 00:18:31
Mm-hmm. Especially before, yeah, really low and so, so Glenberry else there's some people. 00:18:34
Typically, I'll leave that minute and I see this agency. Thank you. 00:18:41
And sometimes it turns out that way, but. 00:18:48
I'll say that. 00:18:52
Again, so last year for instance, Redwood Elementary, in the end of that study there was about flows revenue starting next year. 00:18:53
Redwood had over 500 students, held Reddit and was in the high points at least, maybe closer to 30 on the FCI. 00:19:01
But there were many other factors in that area, so. 00:19:09
So does it matter? Make it sure. And we've had some studies on the other hand, where that was a deciding factor, significant 00:19:11
factor. 00:19:15
So that's why I say it's really hard. You're looking not that it's the best school, but what are the schools around it in that 00:19:19
area? So if you closed one school. 00:19:23
That has a low FCI. 00:19:28
And the other schools around it can. 00:19:32
What are the implications there? 00:19:35
But yes, does it make sense you can look at Hand and Oakwood to bring newer schools. 00:19:37
Great scores. 00:19:43
Umm doesn't make a lot of sense honestly. It's one of those schools. 00:19:44
No, and I'd be shocked if they run a shortlist. 00:19:49
But I would rather and we've just learned to start with everything on the table. 00:19:53
And if somebody has some grand idea that we haven't thought about or the reason that should be closed and another not, then 00:19:57
obviously. 00:20:01
But we want to get those 10. 00:20:05
Hair down. Sticky. 00:20:07
Possible, but then if you're going to North Florida. 00:20:09
It's a little like itself in the past. 00:20:14
Just kind of summarize what the. 00:20:16
Other development processes and performance. 00:20:19
So we really do want feedback as we've gone back to that. 00:20:24
I know data. 00:20:28
We have a lot of the. 00:20:30
You know what we don't always know and understand? Or. 00:20:31
The nuances and needs and concerns, and I think that's a lot of what the public feedback is about. 00:20:35
We learn a lot in this process. 00:20:41
So again, starts in February with me going to board. I've represented Booth called Attack Population Analysis Committee, which is 00:20:43
really most every director of the district. 00:20:48
To death, a lot of these things. 00:20:54
But large meetings that we've had already. I go to community councils at each school. I have a meeting in a couple of weeks with 00:20:57
all community council members of the church show. 00:21:01
And their small groups. 00:21:06
So not many meetings really during the summer it's just the pack meets and then again large meetings and multiple small and medium 00:21:08
sized meetings in the fall. 00:21:12
The inception in October. 00:21:17
What we want to do is people go to the website, if you share this, post it, whatever, I don't care and get them to go to the 00:21:19
website and give us feedback. Steve, have you thought of this? Please consider this. 00:21:24
And there are some Nuggets that we really get often times and. 00:21:29
And I'll say be creative, give some ideas. 00:21:33
But I'm also going to be very honest and say. 00:21:36
You see the numbers like I do and it's very difficult to find a way to not close. 00:21:39
At least. 00:21:45
If you have a way and if we have a way, then. 00:21:46
Please let me hear. 00:21:49
But when I say be creative, I want your ideas, but I'm not trying to skirt the issue of. 00:21:51
Potentially closing stores. 00:21:58
Does that make sense there? 00:22:01
NN is the first reading of also approval by the board, December is the final approval and again the meditation of all. 00:22:02
You've shared a lot of the data that you are used to help make the decision who is the one who's, who are the groups of people 00:22:13
they're skipping that data and determining how much each factor is going to weigh in each. And so that path committee, yeah, so 00:22:20
about on an average maybe 25 or 30 of them in there. 00:22:27
That's a close meeting that we don't want to have board members of that meeting because it's. 00:22:34
As you might understand, it's this strong personalities and they advocate for their areas as they should it. 00:22:39
And then push back on each other to make sure we're remembering all different parts. 00:22:44
This process. 00:22:50
It does not necessarily always have a consensus or unanimous, but enough. We need to take recommendations back to the board 00:22:52
because in the end, of course, this is a board decision. 00:22:57
So it is like administrators so. 00:23:02
Of administrators, the only exceptions we do have a representative from the GE. 00:23:07
Education Association and the region of PTA Chair. 00:23:13
Other than that, these are all educators. 00:23:19
So director of transportation, the curriculum, special education. 00:23:21
Information systems and. 00:23:27
We name it, they're all and sometimes multiple people from the park. 00:23:30
Let me hear. I have that list on our other one, the one that's posted on our website who was on the patch? 00:23:34
Not names, but just the titles of Worcester. 00:23:40
OK, well. 00:23:48
Having gone through this, the last goal. 00:23:51
There's nothing that animates. 00:23:55
Parents more than when you start. 00:24:00
Do the things that affect their kids they haven't really, really done, but I think you guys. 00:24:03
Do a great job under difficult circumstances, but. 00:24:08
You know, we all see the data too, as the data doesn't lie. 00:24:13
So. 00:24:17
Anyway, we appreciate the update and. 00:24:19
Any information you can give us because we will get. 00:24:23
We're already getting, we're already getting some inquiries about other issues that are. 00:24:25
Being generated from this boundary study probably aware of yeah and and as it picks up, we'll start to hear more. So any 00:24:30
information that you can give us would be appreciated and. 00:24:35
And again, I'm glad to come out to many meetings, formal or informal, try to answer questions, clarify things. 00:24:41
Against that part of the process. 00:24:49
Yeah, we may want to consider. I don't know if we are. 00:24:51
Having something in the journal the next, you know, until this thing is voted on with the QR codes and. 00:24:55
So residents are aware of it to keep up with the process. 00:25:02
That would be virtually. 00:25:06
Well, thanks so much. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you for your time. 00:25:08
All right. Thank you. OK, We're going to invite the stataphors up for well. 00:25:11
They just made it more laundry more more Italian. 00:25:28
Well, thanks for coming and thank you guys for coming. 00:25:34
Wait. 00:25:39
I know your teacher. Throw them out of the room already. 00:25:43
Involved every year building has more a works rather than to know. 00:26:00
It wasn't a record 5. 00:26:07
82 though this year, 7 veto. 00:26:09
And it was a lot for a lot of bills, especially at the very beginning. 00:26:13
A lot of different things just obviously will use. 00:26:17
Law enforcement by fire, wildfire, so you can browse under the interface. So kind of a handful of issues. We won't touch time. I 00:26:20
want to see things on hand, so still getting the next one. 00:26:27
They don't know Whistler. 00:26:35
Still do either. 00:26:37
Result here, you know, we had our bill list we can follow. A lot of them were big general, general city government issues were 00:26:40
more specific to holidays, but a lot of our legislators find it helpful to just know that there's any big issues. 00:26:46
And you know where where the city is, so we made sure to always contact you the same thing. 00:26:53
Exception. We'll start with a handful of. 00:26:59
A couple of handful of housing bills. 00:27:09
A lot, and they're coming out of most of them are not coming out. 00:27:20
And one of the bills got reductive. 00:27:25
The economic opportunity. 00:27:27
Economic opportunity conditions and then the housing commissioners, that part of that that that larger economic opportunity 00:27:32
Commission no longer exists, but the housing Commission will continue. 00:27:37
So a few of these bills each be 37 housing amendments from the gym, done again. 00:27:43
There are a couple things as well with 1 and I want to play right there. Is that part of a new menu option for the moderate income 00:27:49
housing plan? 00:27:53
Is a density overlay and so we give it to 10 family homes or you can do it for multifamily, single family I think it's 6 acres per 00:27:57
unit and multifamily I think it's. 00:28:02
20 umm. 00:28:07
20 or 20? So seriously. 00:28:08
Mesh, Hewlett-Packard, so you can give a density bonus. The nice thing here, so I should implement this. You can then acquire, if 00:28:10
you put instructions on it, you can say, OK, yes, I'll give you more units per acre. 00:28:17
We have had affordability or you have kept home at home. 00:28:23
Right, because there was a lot of times where I talk to someone and. 00:28:26
Please only increase density for the next million dollar comes before. 00:28:30
And so this then gives us a piece of tool if you would like that tool to then say, OK, 25% of them. 00:28:34
Be affordable and you sleep. 00:28:41
Have right now, but I think it's. 00:28:43
60% owner occupied and 25% restricted. Price wisely. Difficult. 00:28:46
So those are some of the helpful pieces that gives cities and other tools instead of being restricted. 00:28:52
They're permissive. 00:28:57
The other piece of that pill is the statewide housing plan. 00:28:59
And the governor put this out of his budget in the beginning of the year. 00:29:04
And then Seaboard is in the governor's office, is going to follow through a GOP governor's office of, of planning budget. 00:29:10
The good part about this is not just the state saying what we all want to do, There's there's stakeholder, required stakeholder. 00:29:18
An input so. 00:29:25
So it's going to be a process. 00:29:29
Which is mostly about the week, but I mean definitely. 00:29:32
These BT 56 municipal county zoning amendments panel. 00:29:36
Clara area in Washington County. 00:29:42
Many of you are familiar with a couple years ago and not well still right of short term rentals, which basically said you can't 00:29:44
use the listing as a piece of evidence for enforcing your. 00:29:50
The ordinance rentals. 00:29:56
This clearly states that yes, you can use the listing. 00:29:58
If you have other efforts. 00:30:01
So you can use that to find your. 00:30:02
Enforcement, it also allows you can't pull things off the website, but it gives a process for cities to say, hey, I think that you 00:30:05
can go through to whether it's Bribo or Airbnb. So hey, I think that's the most thing is legally to Google and you can kind of 00:30:11
start that process. You can also use that. 00:30:17
This one next collection make sure the tax collection is happening. 00:30:24
You can also. 00:30:28
The only thing you have to do is have an orbits right? So if you want to use some of these tools, you just. 00:30:30
So definitely a lot of work when it's not a very good healthy build and. 00:30:37
Takes it back toward a little bit more exciting control. 00:30:42
You have something that you have a job and you're looking to get a look at the same. 00:30:45
Bill. 00:30:54
SB181. Housing Authority amendments. 00:31:01
Slither from your phone or. 00:31:04
SD 181. 00:31:08
Traveling for ability amendments and this is 1. I think like there so many of these went through like so many different 00:31:10
iterations. You had to go through the file, see what ended up where, how good or bad it was. 00:31:14
But one thing I think. 00:31:20
The important is restricted municipality for parking requirements for one $2.00 units. 00:31:22
So you can't restrict a parking unit or a parking stall if it's unobstructed, enclosed, or covered. 00:31:27
To require it to be larger than 10 by 20. 00:31:34
For uncovered parking to be larger than 9, wide by 20. 00:31:38
The type of spirits can own parking spaces. 00:31:42
Also, a new study cannot require a garage for a single family dwelling that is owner occupied and affordable, which is 80%. 00:31:45
Development comes in and see the situation Europe. 00:31:53
For sale to check your wire to parking the grass. 00:31:57
That affect us at all. 00:32:02
Just slightly. We'll have to make a slight adjustment. 00:32:05
Destiny 260-2000. Affordability. 00:32:12
They all just have like the same name this SB 262 some of the film or again. 00:32:15
Um, he's been there. That allows the legislative body of certain medication for his scientific accruing. 00:32:23
It will get you all in this whole conversation that is city Summit County. 00:32:27
Grants are sitting in a very owner. 00:32:32
And wasn't happy with this language. And so the last language between 37 and they tried to slip in another substitute basically, 00:32:35
which would have restricted the city's ability to enforce the historic district named after 1990, right. So that was like the very 00:32:42
dramatic last night of the session, you know, logging via texting. And we could use a lot of legislators outside a few 00:32:48
legislators, but that did not get. 00:32:55
We have more stories like that. 00:33:03
So there's there's that in here this. 00:33:09
The one thing that I wanted to point out is it allows for. 00:33:12
A world which increases the sub market share appreciation alone program you have to Utah housing corporation and then it allows 00:33:16
for rulemaking process to allow for programs to assist developers and teens in certain liability insurance. 00:33:23
We're confident in development. 00:33:30
Right. It's an effort to try to help incentivize and provide greater coverage for developers that build owner occupied products 00:33:32
instead of for rent. 00:33:38
And you're trying to find ways. 00:33:43
'Cause there's so many barriers to building for sale. 00:33:45
Multifamily. This is one of the tools they're trying to create and testifies that. 00:33:49
Umm, wildlife smoothie, Big Bill, definitely going to the next holiday, and I think it's going to be an iterative process. I think 00:33:55
you're going to see this as a handphone here. 00:34:01
You were part of the USA board meeting and we kind of reviewed this. So at least we have 40 neighborhoods that are wildland urban 00:34:07
interface modifications. 00:34:13
Requires. 00:34:18
So the county is going to end this on the county level. 00:34:20
That's going to coordinate also with forestry, fire and state lands. 00:34:23
And they're going to create a forestry fire in state plans is going to they have a current mapping system called VRAP. 00:34:27
That starts to turn based on usual data. 00:34:34
Where the high risk areas are and and they're going to determine these boundaries of high risk. 00:34:37
And there's going to be pretty often. 00:34:43
Most thing you know, highest risk down to the lowest risk. 00:34:47
Within this boundary. 00:34:51
So that if you have coordination with the county, the county is then maybe going to coordinate with local fire departments. It's 00:34:53
really, really just broad strokes at this point. There's going to be a whole process where. 00:34:59
Your property, if you are within this this area, you're going to be assessed a fee and the average fee is about $40. 00:35:05
And then annually $50 fee and but it's going to depend on size and all those things that's that the average number. 00:35:12
I'm going to create a program, so there's going to be an assessment on your project to say, OK, hey, if you go through and you cut 00:35:21
things back or you do XY and Z, you will limit your fire hazards. 00:35:25
And hopefully this will be something that will help the homeowner, and then you're going to take responsibility to do those 00:35:30
things. 00:35:33
But this will hopefully help with with homeowner insurance. 00:35:35
The insurance companies on their side, there's a lot of interactions on what they're going to do. They can use other data, but 00:35:39
they have to also start using these boundaries and they have to start using Utah centric data instead of, you know, amortized data 00:35:44
nationwide. So it's going to assess the risk. 00:35:50
They they can still drop you, they can't still increase your rates, but there has to be a finding effect. 00:35:56
And so now there's a little bit more restrictions and parameters within the insurance insurance. 00:36:02
So how this assessment program is going to work is largely going to be rule. It doesn't go into effect until January 6. 00:36:08
And then I think we're going to see more processes. 00:36:20
Of how this kind of unfolds, I think this can be a very busy note. 00:36:24
For holiday. 00:36:28
The other thing to do is you have to adopt it. Avoid POST. 00:36:30
Part of that through where we were discussing is, you know, is it only with Matt boundary that yes, that makes sense, right. 00:36:38
So there's a lot of work to be. 00:36:45
Then what we call that building code. So why lever interface building? So it's going to have to be adopted. Every city has to 00:36:48
adopt and or you lose out on certain radiation. 00:36:53
This comedy forestry fires Jimmy Barnes and benical team You know which Ashley has a great relationship. We both did, but Ash has 00:36:59
a great relation to G. 00:37:05
You know, sometimes you go through this rulemaking process if there are certain things that we need here in all of them, you know, 00:37:12
let's let's discuss those. 00:37:16
Let's put together what we need and let's have a meeting with Jim, and I would recommend that. 00:37:20
You know, and working with UFA and work really closely. So there's a good relationship there and there's a relationship with 00:37:26
personal side or two. 00:37:30
You know one of the nice things about UFA is because it's such a great fire department. Yes, it benefits USA like being up there 00:37:37
as part of this legislative process, but it also. 00:37:41
Fire agency because they are so well, but it's not very knowledgeable. 00:37:46
And so involved so I mean I would say this is from the phone whenever I think that she was calling the account because accounting 00:37:50
is going through line and it's going to come from horse during fire, but the county is going to be the one that overseas that. 00:37:55
So a lot of a lot of work is done and the county Catholic cancer. 00:38:02
Some of the things I'm curious about, those still unknown. 00:38:08
What Ufas role would be? Do they get a chunk of this $50 fee in order to go out and assess properties? 00:38:12
Or is this? 00:38:19
The first fee to fund the formation of a program that charges you a fee. 00:38:21
Where does at what point does rubber hit the road? And by Newman, who pays the cost of that? 00:38:27
Rubber hitting rubber. 00:38:33
So it's a simple form, is just. 00:38:39
Nunosafonich. 00:38:50
Forest and fire and satellite. 00:38:52
Sneaked a bit then is that who is? 00:38:55
Doing the overland there, they're saying this property is endangered, this property is not and we already have a pretty robust 00:39:00
program and these. 00:39:05
IP but what they're they've got to continue to modify it so it's updated almost instantly right because if you have a high risk. 00:39:10
Property and then you do you know you do the sensible space or you do you know XY and Z to lower that risk. It should then show 00:39:20
up. 00:39:23
And that is the goal, right? So I think that's why it's kind of like this is going to be something. 00:39:28
Process or not, right? It's not going to all of a sudden. 00:39:32
The program is done and ready to go. It's going to be. 00:39:36
There are there are also problems. 00:39:40
That's, you know, that that's where the ultimate decision to be made. 00:39:46
I think we'll see more legislation on this next January question about that. 00:39:50
But I do think that because this. 00:39:54
This this bill. 00:39:56
COVID X holiday and no, probably more in Salt Lake. Probably more than a lot of other cities. Maybe Sandy and grapes. 00:39:58
You know, this is something I think we can declare. You know, we need to keep a lot of thought deliver during the other one. We 00:40:06
need to make sure that we can apply the rule making process. 00:40:10
You know if Gina Mayor. 00:40:15
When, when you see when the time comes, is that something that we certainly can do that? 00:40:17
And I think this is something that I think we learned will be important. You know, it's not it's not, it's not the same with 00:40:25
school closures. 00:40:28
But it does affect people in the city spammatically. 00:40:32
And I think that's something I think we need to keep our handle. 00:40:36
And potentially, you know, hearing local hearing self educated residents. 00:40:39
As to what this impact is. 00:40:45
Going to take our communication. 00:40:49
Say anything what what Utah's trying to look like. 00:40:52
Working very, very rough and foreign rollout and basically insurance company it didn't work with the insurance company. That's a 00:40:54
great work for to ensure anybody about. 00:41:00
And they had to pull back the Edward Chuckle map, right? And So what this process that they started to do is try to work with the 00:41:06
insurance companies. 00:41:10
To find that right by voice. 00:41:14
Let's be honest, they weren't happy. 00:41:15
Criminal Minds that the idea is. 00:41:21
Very different. 00:41:23
Probably specific. 00:41:24
Like kind of compel the insurance companies to provide some proper coverage or I. 00:41:26
Coming from, you know, 10 years. 00:41:33
It was my assessment. 00:41:36
Isaac So I medicated that body too. 00:41:38
And so you then, you know, that should be something to use, right? To go back and say I have done all of these things to help 00:41:41
reduce the risk. 00:41:45
Violence. 00:41:49
From your neighborhood? Yeah, your neighbor. 00:41:53
Your neighbor. That information is out. 00:41:55
Communicated properly. 00:41:59
I think that that will help. Every year we have to renew our, our, our fire insurance, you know, get the rates. 00:42:00
Going up all the time. 00:42:09
So it's just something that I think you let me know the more you just make sure we communicate, get with Jay and the kid. 00:42:13
We get a set. 00:42:23
Couple of those days last time. 00:42:25
Thank you. 00:42:30
He's been 198 and again, a lot of these bills started out terrible and ended up blessed here. 00:42:33
HP 198 highway expansion and stuff that was about Peterson. So the final one allows builders to be relocated through the 00:42:41
construction within one mile on. 00:42:47
Highway within the same municipality, unless there is another mutually agree upon them. 00:42:54
It must be within wait. 00:42:59
So I think it's within one mile. 00:43:01
Always an investment state in a an industrial court. 00:43:04
No, the one mile restriction is gone. 00:43:08
In the final version. 00:43:11
Yeah, I think so. I think it's gone and I think what it says and it has to be within the same community. 00:43:13
But there's like a four mile restriction now. This is only Interstate building. 00:43:19
Yeah, OK. 00:43:23
Yeah, OK. 00:43:27
They have to. the Billboard company has to make their deal. 00:43:37
That strike release. But if they do. 00:43:40
Cities required to permit the relocation within very broad distance now because it's a new proper. 00:43:42
Yeah, and. 00:43:51
Ashley, I got a solid. 00:43:53
845 from county said this is a language. Are you OK? 00:43:57
So that's the last thing I heard and it didn't track that. 00:44:02
Don't work, company has to do their meal. 00:44:07
If they can't. 00:44:13
They can't break it. 00:44:14
The there is a little. 00:44:16
Scary part of that. Thankfully not for holiday. 00:44:18
But it pushes relocation more clearly onto the local government. 00:44:21
Tennis local government somehow prohibits relocation. Then there's a worry the local government pays the tab. 00:44:27
For condemning the site, right? So we're really grateful on holiday that this is only Interstate Interstate, right? I think every 00:44:34
city is is, is grateful itself here. North Salt Lake is not very great. 00:44:40
But but yeah, sometimes art is grateful. Is the 215 belt loop Interstate? 00:44:48
Yeah, 250. So what we have right about there all on this team. 00:44:55
It's just I think on line 156. But when you say municipal, you're uncluttering. I'm using. 00:45:00
Same property, adjacent property, I understand the same highway, a new location. 00:45:07
Previous location. 00:45:14
Or or another booking. 00:45:16
This is one of like seconds when we're going to come out and make it like 7 different options and they push through one right? 00:45:18
Like double, double check. But I think it's with the not one mile. 00:45:23
Yeah. But please double check this, yeah. 00:45:28
But you can't. 00:45:34
BE 355 critical infrastructure material amendments. 00:45:40
This largely does not priorities. 00:45:46
Right. I mean, because the way that it's. 00:45:49
It is not great. I think the way I heard it was only a handful of this. 00:45:52
If you are. 00:45:57
Grass graphite operators. The ability to expand antiguous land to operate that the operator owes consults before May 1725. 00:45:59
Operator must give notice the city prior to the expansion. The city makes a finding of endangerment of health or safety. The city 00:46:11
may impose mitigation standards. 00:46:14
So, you know, the only reason I bring up yes is in fact Carly's, but I just think it's all of these changes and we're going to 00:46:19
keep on making him. And if there's always that threat of potential ground, that's right, you said kind of follow, but. 00:46:24
Again, terrible bill that ended up less terrible. 00:46:30
Elections continue in that fashion. 00:46:35
1833 hundred and then next election month, Jackson versus. 00:46:38
Burden so the final the final burden of this deal we're leading a good start to really strict you know and ballot strike the. 00:46:43
Which I think we had the most always in the combination. This really starts to restrict it. 00:46:53
It does push it out, so it requires an extra third voter. So right the last four digits of their Utah driver's license, their 00:46:59
state identification card or Social Security number on the return envelope of their mailing ballot. 00:47:04
Or you can vote in person. 00:47:10
It allows for a signature in comparison in lieu of identifying numbers as well 2029. 00:47:11
So after 2029 you can only have that identification numbers. Up until then you can also you can go either out of the signature or 00:47:18
those 4 numbers. 00:47:22
And then starting in 2029 hundred, let's opt in. 00:47:26
To buy now. 00:47:30
And then you have to do whatever eight years. 00:47:31
So it's going to be an education, right, Like we have to educate our our books of video requirements because there are just. 00:47:33
It it simplified from where it started, but it's not. 00:47:41
David, I'll talk about two bills that come, both that didn't pass. I just want to put on your radar. 00:47:48
Horrible, terrible building. While you're going to see again this year, this was SB3337 Land use development amendments, the BHAB 00:47:56
Development Agency balance. 00:48:00
Just one of original bill would have created they're allowed for you with the subdivision controlled by Goyos State. 00:48:05
To come in and do a. 00:48:13
Internet development where everybody. 00:48:14
Safe with no initial bills, no book. 00:48:16
They could do up to three of these years. 00:48:20
They were talking about nuclear energy, space ports, large scale development, so it wouldn't be necessarily a holiday issue, but 00:48:24
basically a lot of states. 00:48:28
It died a very visible and fork death because it wasn't local government motion that was injured, it was actually all spectrums of 00:48:35
the political spectrums that were. 00:48:40
Far right. Far left. 00:48:46
But I think you don't see it still. 00:48:49
Again, and if they do do it, I really wanted to see what the logo something. 00:48:51
I want to mention HB 22.5 schools I was reading about. That's Carol Ross. 00:49:01
This is a bill that she foiled on. 00:49:07
It allows for the current statute. 00:49:11
Allows for an individual that season 4 though stay compensatory service. 00:49:15
And it was becoming an issue because there were so many folks who come and and follow the crossing guard. Is that the capacity 00:49:21
service? 00:49:25
There's so many times these folks weren't happy about being there. They were angry separate police officer there to watch the 00:49:30
individual that compensatory service with the crossing guards that doesn't it's a lot of duplication efforts, right. So this bill 00:49:36
got a little bit of rocky start. We ended up modifying basically saying I think it was like originally it was increasingly. 00:49:43
The speed and right, but then finally you work with the police resource that you said, hey, we've had some other cities too that 00:49:51
have the same issue. So it was just from a shower to ma. So basically a judge could. 00:49:56
Acquire the Customer Service LLC. 00:50:02
It ran outside. I think we could get it through. I think we just have to start with a little earlier, get a little bit more 00:50:05
education on what what it is because a lot of people thought that this was putting in the requirement and instead of. 00:50:10
You know, lessening that. 00:50:16
Is when you have these folks doing. 00:50:20
Just didn't particularly give a blessed things by the ones. 00:50:39
The other one from the Council on License for Computers. 00:50:54
There was a bill ran out of time. It was a lot of work done. It came out late. The number 468 representative, freshman 00:50:59
legislators, MDA. 00:51:03
We did a lot of work with volleyball and. 00:51:08
Totally comprehensively. 00:51:11
Before the bill came out on that side was over so late. 00:51:13
And and what the bill does is it does allow for a large leaking that there are some more restrictions. You could get rid of the 00:51:16
data sooner. I think it changes the retention that you have in 90 days. 00:51:20
And then it really starts to ask for a lot of data on how license platelets were used. 00:51:25
You know where they're looking at, how they're looking at these bills and then go back in and. 00:51:30
Price fee. 00:51:38
With safety, right, because these, these tools are extremely helpful, whether it's an antler alert, whether it's a missing person, 00:51:39
they're they're very well utilized and, and a lot of different companies like to use them. 00:51:44
But then this is what start you and make sure that there's not right. 00:51:49
For protection and privacy. So we was really fantastic to work with. 00:51:53
We'll do it again. We'll probably do it during the energy. 00:51:59
Is the built device diagonal cargo? 00:52:05
You know the. 00:52:08
News of lessons that read is a very unique one. 00:52:09
You don't want to come. 00:52:12
What was the status of that that didn't? 00:52:18
And it got to the place where it's like the very last couple days, it's, you know, whose priorities and which the priorities and 00:52:23
each bodies priority. And this year I have a lot of banks between the two bodies. And so there were a lot of fighting. I've never 00:52:29
seen so many conference committee. It's kind of interest. I mean, that's where I got my joy right. Was watching strange and you 00:52:35
know. 00:52:40
Umm, but there was there. So it does get lost in the very end. So I don't think there's an issue with that. There was. 00:52:48
No doing that. 00:52:55
So does that mean that right now? 00:53:01
License plated of the Wild West. There are no There are no license plate no. 00:53:04
To. 00:53:11
So I got 250 Dan McCain in 2023. 00:53:13
That bill largely out was like that. That largely outlines kind of what the current policy is for. 00:53:18
One thing that Chris Brown well state privacy. 00:53:26
He's going to work with DPS. I think there's like a model contract, right? Like a model that local governments can use if they 00:53:31
would like to start using these LPR. So you have some of those those so that good balance of, you know, you can use that for that 00:53:36
you can't. 00:53:40
Because what you want to do is you want to make sure that if you're there are two major companies that you that you could you go 00:53:46
under a contract with the last five years. 00:53:50
We want to make sure the data is yours, not theirs. 00:53:54
Because if it's dense and. 00:53:58
Right now, yeah, right now there's there's regulations that are going with message, right. 00:54:01
Of license, but you're much pretty data because personal use not so much so that that's the that's the relevance that's protected 00:54:05
in us so. 00:54:09
A lot of work. 00:54:14
Historically. 00:54:20
Transportation bills where? 00:54:27
Part of the. 00:54:30
The quarter in Salt Lake County would be would be used to fund certain projects. 00:54:32
And those in those cities that have leadership. 00:54:37
Majority leadership tends to get the money. 00:54:41
And so before the session we talked about. 00:54:44
You know, keeping an eye out for that and making sure you know, if that was going to be opened up and we'll be fine, make sure we 00:54:46
have. 00:54:51
Talk to Harper, said Harper Chip. And he does, and he said he doesn't think there was going to be anything they should we 00:54:56
confirmed to that. 00:54:59
Hospital final 2 was number and February 15. 00:55:03
And when that bill was done, looked at it, but actually, what did the House Investigation committee, what was discussed? 00:55:09
And that bill, it was, it was Jordan. It was Jordan Kusher. 00:55:17
With providing $1 million to South Jordan for a role. 00:55:21
And I thought, OK, you know, it's not opening it up. It's special legislation. We'll see what happens to it. 00:55:25
Bill passes the House. 00:55:30
On February 25th. 00:55:32
On March 4th. 00:55:36
The bill is sub to the second sub and still there are no bells and whistles that are leaning on this issue. 00:55:38
And then and then around dinner time, I think like this before or after dinner. 00:55:46
The Senate passed the 6th from 7th up to 6th. 00:55:50
And in that 6th sub, the last night of the section, no committee hearings yet. Made the following changes in that bill. 00:55:56
It provided funding to the county of the First Class Infrastructure Fund Bank. 00:56:07
Totally new concept. 00:56:13
It it Salt Lake County before I let you back up, Salt Lake County can enact the 5th of the 5th. 00:56:16
That's an extra .2%. 00:56:24
Or the sales tax. 00:56:26
And supposedly, Salt Lake County is going to do that. 00:56:28
By July of this year. 00:56:31
But it takes effect, it starts, you start to pay it as as taxpayers going on. 00:56:34
.05 of that that 2/10 will go to the cities. 00:56:41
On a you know to do transportation. 00:56:47
.05% goes to Salt Lake County for transportation or public safety. 00:56:50
Last 110th. 00:56:57
.09 goes into the new county of the First Class Infrastructure Bank Fund. 00:56:59
And oh .01% goes to fund the express bus route on 5600 W. 00:57:05
The .09% is available as the public infrastructure projects. 00:57:14
Loans low. Low as a glance. 00:57:20
And Salt Lake County, the first chunk of money that was that was determined and put in the bill. 00:57:23
Last time the session. 00:57:30
Draper, Herriman. 00:57:32
The Metropolitan Water District of Salt Lake and Sandy. 00:57:34
Grateful West on another kind of blocked up. 00:57:37
Infrastructure projects. 00:57:40
Still, we're going to be something that I think we ought to discuss. Yes, the Legislature inappropriate. 00:57:43
But there really ought to be. 00:57:52
I'm looking at your dad and see that conversation. We really ought to be a lot of discussion at the conference of maintenance and 00:57:53
develop a. 00:57:57
It's a process to take a look at what the infrastructure needs are in the county because our taxpayers agreement. 00:58:01
And make sure that there's a process. 00:58:09
So that. 00:58:12
Should be. 00:58:19
That's not something you know. 00:58:22
I'm sure some of these projects are very very bad, but there are other projects. 00:58:24
Also that night in this draft that hadn't been seen before. 00:58:29
3.7 on the quarter, The quarter of transportation running went to West Valley. 00:58:34
The South Florida Project, Historic Title 2. 00:58:40
Magna Taylorville, West Jordan. 00:58:43
So there was by the electrical transportation. 00:58:46
Now the part of the infrastructure money. 00:58:51
Authorizes you not Is that $70 million in general obligation transportation dollars for an affordable grant? Affordable housing 00:58:56
grant programs, public health. 00:59:01
Now we might be able to benefit from this. 00:59:06
Because you know, when we're talking about our affordable housing that we have people involved, there's a delta. 00:59:09
And so depending on depending on how gooey develops all the rules. 00:59:14
It has it has to be a project of more than 50 affordable housing units. 00:59:20
And you can get a $20,000 grant funding in order to the recipient. 00:59:24
The infrastructure to afford, at least for housing, is if you have 50. 00:59:28
And you can do 20,000 * 50 for your for the help of big infrastructure. 00:59:35
You know, I think we have to do. 00:59:40
100 or 200 can't remember 100 so that would allow us out kind of trying to get some of this infrastructure affordable housing 00:59:42
money, you know to help to help close that delta on how we have to be affordable housing. So not all is lost on this or bad on 00:59:48
this. The problem is. 00:59:54
Is when, not when you when you use local government funding. 01:00:01
Which is what this is. 01:00:05
And you'll have a legislate to make the determination, which is what they do. 01:00:06
We play by their rules and not by our rules. 01:00:11
And I think there ought to be discussions, if not the mayor's, about how to. 01:00:14
Better develop a process to play by rules in Salt Lake County, not legislators. 01:00:18
But that was how political tips. 01:00:24
I said that the third that goes to the series is can we make our own time? Yes. What are the what are the restrictions? 01:00:27
That's the only restriction right now. That's all. That's all I'm aware of. 01:00:37
But we need people need to get. 01:00:41
Go through more information. 01:00:44
And 50 right out. 01:00:46
So some numbers were distributed. It looks like it's just slightly over $300,000. 01:00:50
.05 It's not a lot. 01:00:58
But you know, it's like. 01:01:03
That in addition to the 300,000, that's part of that required. So this is an additional, yeah. 01:01:05
Well, I think this we've got to get ourselves educated on this stuff in terms of what it is. 01:01:13
How much it is to expect? The problem with this is just the. 01:01:19
The secrecy involved in. 01:01:25
That the money is out there and how can you? How can you apply for it or get it? 01:01:28
And the politics involved with other ones that already talked to me about it. 01:01:34
Let me agree. It's it's. 01:01:40
Our 11th hour seems just like that of a staple. 01:01:43
Oh, you know. 01:01:47
And that's what you really have to watch the end because watch the movie like 3 different steps, right? And then I'll determine 01:01:59
what's going on. So you'd be up to a child. It's just, it's funny hours, right? Like the last few days. Is that where the funny 01:02:05
stuff happens? And you know, you know, we just you were participating on the housing bill with the on the historic, historic 01:02:11
landlord, Mr. Principal, everybody. 01:02:18
There was another bill. 01:02:24
On law enforcement. On law enforcement. 01:02:27
You know that would you know as as chief basketballs, you know if there's going to be a. 01:02:29
Is going to be a termination of suspension or three days or more. 01:02:36
You make the determination, then the officer gets here because they give their deposit, correct? 01:02:43
This other language that they wanted to put into the bill. 01:02:54
Would have allowed. Would have required a hearing before. 01:02:57
The individual, the officer was just. 01:03:02
So as a hearing, the discipline that another hearing. 01:03:06
You know, and so talk about convolution. 01:03:10
And that was because. 01:03:14
The individual who passed the bill on the. 01:03:16
267 on a low cost of bargaining kind of the twins of guilt when FOP told them that they would want to talk in 2027 annual 01:03:21
convention. 01:03:26
And they wanted to put that language into it. Modify FOP. 01:03:31
And they didn't care about the cities or about. 01:03:35
26 or about 5 employees or about any other public safety employee that wouldn't wouldn't have to they just wanted to deal with. 01:03:38
Keeping that Republican judgment. So yes. So yes, a lot of things that have happened on the latter time. 01:03:47
And it keeps it all bad enough like this, yeah. 01:03:55
Well, I think on some of the, you know, some of it, it just. 01:03:59
No, no. I thought we talked about it early and then. 01:04:04
Want to be almost It's like we know there's money out there. We want we want you to know that we know. 01:04:08
And we want to. 01:04:15
Have our handout for some of that money. That's almost how it comes across on the quarter to quarter piece and I don't want to 01:04:17
look, I don't want to. 01:04:21
You know, the thing that frustrates me about it is we made a big effort 678 years ago to move back to the county in terms of the 01:04:26
quarter and quarter and have there be a transparent process. 01:04:31
You know, all of a sudden it's back at the state again. 01:04:36
It's back to the same open. It's literally. 01:04:40
Feelings in backgrounds. 01:04:43
And anyway, well, we've got some meetings with a couple of the new County Council representatives. I'm going to bring it up again. 01:04:47
I don't think it'll do any good because. 01:04:50
It's a legislature wants it there. They want to use that not only in the excellent lever, but. 01:04:55
Last conversation. 01:05:05
Yeah. 01:05:18
Yes, he called us last year. 01:05:27
Yeah, yeah. 01:05:33
If she accepts in Philadelphia was the Senate sponsor of the. 01:05:36
I'm supposed to. We're supposed to say, oh, thank you so much for giving us some more money. 01:05:43
Difficult. 01:05:49
That's right. 01:05:50
So. 01:05:58
Wow, like I'm saying. 01:05:59
Like any of the other really good stories. 01:06:05
Well, thank you very much. Appreciate. 01:06:10
It made sure that we were on top of the things that were. 01:06:15
Let's follow up. 01:06:25
And then we'll start all over again, 8787. 01:06:28
Is there an e-mail? 01:06:36
Put together the schedule for Wednesday of every month except for July. 01:06:39
Don't go this all the potential issues. 01:06:49
And it's over that in 10 days. 01:06:52
And then the first thing was going to be language. 01:06:56
All right. Thanks, I'll. Thanks everybody. 01:07:01
And if I need them right here to keep going? 01:07:06
Tucker Patrol. 01:07:10
Irene Murrah, I think my my husband on agenda. 01:07:12
OK, so get me excited too early here. Hey, we like this stuff. This is the we do. I'm glad you think it's fun. 01:07:17
Tonight so. 01:07:27
But thank you all for giving us some time for this year sentences. 01:07:29
So let us know, remember. 01:07:33
What's helpful with us, because there's a lot of data here. There is a lot of data, yes. And so it's always helpful for us to 01:07:35
know. 01:07:39
If there is a message in that data that I think we should be focused on. 01:07:43
Happy to highlight those things. 01:07:50
I guess as a quick intro lower almost to the forwarding 3. 01:07:53
So let's just dive right in here and we'll talk methodology when I get to the slide that makes everyone's eyes place over. 01:08:01
But the key findings the fun stuff first. 01:08:07
Overall, we have a really positive health visiting metrics continuing in the holiday. 01:08:10
Residence feels that the city is largely headed in the right direction and their quality of life rating is 82 out of 100 this 01:08:16
year. That's. 01:08:20
About on track with what we've seen in prior years and. 01:08:25
I without. 01:08:28
Naming names, You are statistically tied as the highest rated quality of flexibility that we work for. 01:08:30
Stuff. Congratulations. Please tell us you only handle 2 cities. 01:08:37
So despite presidents ongoing concerns about girls and traffic, they're not closing the door behind them. They're not saying. 01:08:48
No, stay out of holiday. We don't want anyone else to move here, at least exactly if we're talking about friends. 01:09:01
It would be great to have the neighbors related to them in the back here. 01:09:08
Any single family housing specifically just. 01:09:12
Like. 01:09:17
The things that pop out are the small town charm that holiday has. 01:09:29
It's natural beauty and then there are a lot, there's a lot of focus on community generally. 01:09:34
The people really make the. 01:09:39
And the sense of safety that residents have their stands out as well. 01:09:41
Again, thinking about issues in the city now and looking towards the future, residents are most concerned about growth in traffic 01:09:45
and surrounding issues. 01:09:49
About 2/3 of residents say that they're receiving an excellent or good service value for their tax dollar this year. 01:09:55
Our highest rated city services. 01:10:02
That are managed in house and through our contact services. So just in the aggregate here include community events, garbage 01:10:05
collection and fire emergency. 01:10:10
Medical services so read just the stick with what we've seen in the past there as well. 01:10:15
When we asked residents where they might allocate their hypothetical $100 budget for potential service improvements. 01:10:20
The highest average allocation goes to surface maintenance of streets and roads, and there are some. 01:10:28
Consistent themes that pop out in this year's survey about residents. Ongoing or increased concern with Rd. maintenance or 01:10:34
service. Maintenance, definitely. 01:10:39
We have a large majority of residents who do not currently use public transportation and most of them are not particularly 01:10:46
interested in using public transportation. 01:10:51
Even when we give them an opportunity to say, hey, what can we change to make this more appealing to you? 01:10:56
There is a large share of those residents who. 01:11:01
A little bit intractable. 01:11:05
When we look at those priorities among residents who might be movable. 01:11:07
On the issue and no pun intended. 01:11:12
We find that the things that they're most interested in are increased bus routes and sort of more. 01:11:15
Accessible routes to some key destinations. 01:11:21
And then just improvements to bus stops, making those transition periods or waiting periods a little bit more. 01:11:25
And when we look at some specific city initiatives. 01:11:33
We have about 8 out of 10 residents who say that sustainability is an important goal for the city to continue to pursue. 01:11:36
They believe that preserving and growing trees in the city and water conservation should be the city's highest priority. 01:11:43
So definitely a lot of focus on the tree canopy and maintaining some of that aesthetic that that holiday has fairly. 01:11:49
So survey methodology here. We went back out to a new random sample of residents this year. It's been a few years since we reached 01:11:59
out, so this was. 01:12:03
A panel refresher. In total, we have 800 residents complete the survey. 01:12:07
And those residents were sampled from the registered voter file. We ran the field for just about 3 weeks, 3 1/2 weeks from the 01:12:13
February 20th, March 17th. 01:12:18
And our outreach methods included postcard invitations and text message reminders. 01:12:23
As well as some e-mail invitations to residences here. 01:12:29
That is a great question and I will have to look after. 01:12:35
As always, the data has been weighted to reflect the demographics of the city as a whole. 01:12:41
Referring to each general home ownership, ethnicity and City Council district, you can see our distribution of respondents there. 01:12:45
By council district and you can see that we have about even numbers within each council district so. 01:12:53
Feel really good about that level of representation, and 800 interviews results in margin of error just over 3 percentage points 01:12:58
for all of our aggregate estimates. 01:13:03
So getting into the fun stuff here. 01:13:09
We have our overall quality of life distribution and you can see we have very few residents below that 50 mark, which would be our 01:13:13
our last passing grade on that zero to 100 scale. The really positive attitudes about quality of life in the city overall see that 01:13:19
peak rather than about 90. 01:13:25
On that zero to 100 scale, we're seeing a bit of a ceiling effect here. Frankly, it's hard to get above an average of 82. So 01:13:33
congratulations, that's also consistent across council districts. We don't have any areas of the city that are expressing. 01:13:39
Disproportionate levels of discontent or. 01:13:46
Expressed some concerns about their quality of life. So really positive ratings here. 01:13:49
And when we ask residents how they feel about the direction the city is headed, whether it's headed in the right or wrong 01:13:55
direction. 01:13:58
You see a larger don't know where I'm sure response this year compared. 01:14:01
To what we've seen in the past. 01:14:05
We're just over 1/3 of residents expressing that sort of mutual response. 01:14:08
And that varies from the one council district to the next. 01:14:13
We have particularly high or positive ratings in Districts 1 and 3. 01:14:17
Overall, we have 46% of residents on that. 01:14:23
Saying that they believe the city is headed in the right direction. I feel good in the next slide. 01:14:27
When the reapportioned that right direction, wrong direction balance, taking out that don't know or unsure proportion, we have 01:14:34
about a three to one ratio of residents who say the city has had it in the right direction. So this is looking positive overall. 01:14:41
We ask residents whether they approve or disapprove of the job you all are doing, and overall we have a really high approval 01:14:50
rating here. 7 or 82, excuse me? 01:14:55
Out of 100% and that has gone up just slightly, not really outside the statistical margin of error there compared to 2022. 01:15:01
But 82% approval rating is again something that. 01:15:10
Anything. So congratulations. 01:15:15
A particularly high strong approval rating of residents in district school. 01:15:18
This, in case not, inspires any kind of staffroom conversations at hand. 01:15:23
And an overwhelming majority who are at least somewhat likely to recommend the city members. 01:15:34
And that has picked up just ever so slightly again from 2022 from our 88 to 90% again statistical time, but we like to see those 01:15:52
positive shifts. 01:15:57
And some of the things residents particularly like about the city is that the general location in the valley is a definite draw, 01:16:04
very convenient, lots of accessibility, but the sense of community and the aesthetics of the community as well, Church reads. That 01:16:10
really lends some character to the city. And then. 01:16:16
The quality of neighbors, neighborhoods and people in general really stand out. 01:16:23
Smallpapers some of the things that respect holiday apart from other communities along the front. The things that I really like 01:16:29
about this particular side of augmented responses. 01:16:36
Sometimes. 01:16:44
Which Gina can attach. Sometimes reading all of those text responses gets a little depressing. 01:16:46
This question in particular I think really highlighted. 01:16:53
How much value holiday residents place in the sense of community here? 01:16:56
So again, a lot of focus on the people and the characteristics and the values of the community. 01:17:01
And then the respect and then some aesthetics as well. It's quaint, it's charming, there's beautiful setting, clean atmosphere, 01:17:07
safe neighborhoods, lots of lots of really positive just for first year that residents have. 01:17:13
Looking at areas of concern that residents expressing about the next three to five years, what they would like to see the city 01:17:22
focus on. 01:17:25
Same old song and dance. We're seeing concerns about topic growth and housing. 01:17:30
Looking at our city service ratings here, we have about 2/3 of residents who believe that they receive an excellent or good value 01:17:37
for their tax dollars. 01:17:41
And that is up about 7 percentage points compared to 2022. So positive evaluation there and pretty consistent across council 01:17:45
districts with. 01:17:50
A slightly larger portion of residents in District One who feel they're receiving an excellent or good value. Our largest share of 01:17:55
residents who express an excellent value in District 3. 01:18:00
We asked the residents some questions about the character of the city. 01:18:11
Their sentiments about the city as a whole. 01:18:16
Overall, we had a really strong majority of residents who feel safe to live in the city of holiday and that is a great place to 01:18:19
raise a family. 01:18:23
Really, really positive indicators there and again, an increase compared to 2022 when we're looking at that safety rating, we've 01:18:28
got something 82 to a 91 there in the aggregate. So positive sentiment shift there and from an 83 to an 87% of residents who agree 01:18:34
that the city is a great place to raise the family this year. 01:18:41
Majority positive sentiments across the board here, with one area where we see. 01:18:48
A little bit more exhibition. 01:18:54
The chair of residents who feel the city is growing and developing in a positive way. 01:18:56
A total of 54% agree with that sentiment. And again, that's still up compared to 2022, even though that's our lowest. 01:19:01
Rated sentiments on this set. I would guess that that might be a little ambiguous in the minds of some. That's fair. Just when you 01:19:08
say the word growing in an infill community. 01:19:14
That immediately scares people as opposed to renewal versus growing growth? Yeah, it's definitely. 01:19:20
It's become quite the four letter, yeah. 01:19:27
Looking at residents attitudes toward business opportunities in the city, if there were additional kinds of businesses or things 01:19:32
that residents would like to see more of in the city. 01:19:36
There's a focus on locally owned restaurants and cafes and locally owned retail stores or shops, so an emphasis on the local 01:19:41
business appeal. 01:19:45
And then grocery stores and neighborhood markets, probably no surprise to see that towards the top of the list as well, but 01:19:50
certainly a far cry from just more local commercial offers. 01:19:54
Overall city service ratings, guys, do you have any events? Parks and open spaces and emergency preparedness are the highest rated 01:20:02
services. 01:20:06
From that set of services that are provided in house from the cities and not contracted with other agencies. 01:20:10
A positive rating across the board here until we get to finding building and building services where we fall below 50 on that zero 01:20:17
to 100 scale. 01:20:22
I give this hobby out every year, but just to reiterate, I think this is more of a reflection on residents attitudes towards 01:20:27
growth and development. 01:20:32
Than it is actual interactions with planning, zoning and building. When we read the open-ended responses there aren't. 01:20:37
Particular qualms with planning and zoning most of the time. 01:20:44
Unless it's well this plan was approved for a neighborhood and now that neighborhood is changed now there's a new development 01:20:49
going in. So again, more of the more of an expression of growing pains then. 01:20:55
She's not the department itself. 01:21:01
And then sidewalk maintenance is the one area where we see. 01:21:04
Significantly. 01:21:07
Statistically significantly less than half of residents. 01:21:10
46 on that zero to 100 scale thing, they are satisfied. 01:21:13
An area where we know there's a little bit of controversy in division in the community and do it so. 01:21:18
No big surprises here. 01:21:24
Next slide, we'll look at the shift in those ratings overtime, which are largely minimal again except for sidewalking, because 01:21:26
that's the one area where we see. 01:21:31
A real decline compared to 2022. 01:21:37
Other services are sort of maintaining the same rating they had in prior years or increasing slightly residents ratings of 01:21:40
emergency preparedness. 01:21:44
Bateson is only on the sidewalk. Surgery is having food. 01:21:49
Constructionally, they don't exist. 01:21:53
We asked as sidewalk maintenance. So yeah, that's the way that the service has been listed in the past, not construction. 01:21:56
So that could be part of the. 01:22:04
Very little reduce some. 01:22:11
Yeah, Yeah. There's a question about who's responsible for that maintenance. Is it Telemodere in the city? 01:22:14
Maxima. 01:22:24
No. 01:22:25
Police services and a pulmonary drinking water all for this statistical tie for the third highest rating there. 01:22:31
But all contracted services are rated by highly service, maintenance of city streets and roses where we see the lowest. 01:22:42
Average satisfaction rating among these. 01:22:50
I didn't know how that surfaced piece relates. 01:22:54
Well, I mean, I wouldn't be interested to see. 01:22:57
How far we could go back, They compared that. 01:23:00
Sure. Next slide has our trend line for these services. 01:23:04
If you had a particular low point in 2019 and a thump interception was there in 2022. 01:23:08
As we've sort of leveled out for surface maintenance satisfaction. 01:23:16
Garbage collection recycling, because that's kind of. 01:23:23
Really all part of this very same script. 01:23:26
Similar service. It looks like that's just been. 01:23:29
No, but just prove. 01:23:32
Yeah, I. 01:23:39
Not being particularly familiar with. 01:23:41
Traction recycling administration in holiday. 01:23:45
I would be speculating to explain the gap in residence perceptions of that particular service. 01:23:48
But you can't see sort of the trend between those two services or a similar correlation in when they've been higher or lower over? 01:23:54
In terms of the comments, if I think I might be just typing in there, there were some comments about. 01:24:04
Glass recycling. 01:24:12
And then? 01:24:15
The kind of recycling event that we just did, the hard to recycle items, there's not really a place that was to go. 01:24:17
We asked residents if they had any particular comments about city code enforcement. 01:24:28
We we talked about this last year in reviewing our survey results. 01:24:33
Code enforcement is one of those things where we kind of need resins to elaborate because we want to know whether they feel 01:24:38
there's too much or not enough code enforcement where that. 01:24:43
That frustration is coming from. 01:24:47
We had a lot of comments about. 01:24:50
Sidewalks and city parks. Whether the sidewalk installation. 01:24:52
Happened or happened on time, or frustrations around timing of responses to code issues. 01:24:56
And I will say. 01:25:04
I'm not sure residents always understand whether their complaints are city code related or other department related, and that's 01:25:07
sort of reflected here as well. 01:25:12
So if we really want to drill down into the code enforcement question in the future, we might have to give a little bit of context 01:25:18
for residents. 01:25:23
And focus a little bit more on what exactly that service entails. 01:25:28
A few other comments about city services and experiences. Then sidewalks came up quite a bit. 01:25:35
City Planning Department was responsive and transparent. 01:25:41
So despite. 01:25:45
Sort of scapegoat possession finding has been put in all of them here and then some questions about animal patroller, comments 01:25:47
about animal control as well, but service maintenance, sidewalks, weather installation or maintenance separately. 01:25:54
When we ask residents to allocate that hypothetical $100 budget among the city services, again, the surface maintenance of streets 01:26:03
and roads receives the highest average allocation with just shy of $12.00 out of that 100. 01:26:10
Open Spaces, as one of the favorites, also sees a particularly high allocation there. 01:26:17
Then police and fire and emergency medical services also receiving a high share of residence. 01:26:23
Potential budget? 01:26:30
After that, sort of a long tail of distributed services, but nothing that stands out as overwhelmingly. 01:26:32
In need of budget dedication or improvement once we get below that sort of top tier? 01:26:39
We have more than 10. 01:26:46
Who sentence progressives budget? 01:26:48
Looking at residents obviously supports their own neighborhood. Overall, we have pretty positive sentiments about the aesthetics 01:26:52
of residents neighborhoods and how connected neighborhoods are to the city. 01:26:58
The connectedness of neighborhoods in particular has improved compared to 2022 around this perception of that connectedness. 01:27:03
And I am not sure what to make of that particular increase, frankly, that's. 01:27:12
A really positive shift. 01:27:18
From that. 01:27:20
70 or from that 48 to 70. 01:27:22
But really pleased to see that sentiment there. And then the walkability of holiday neighborhoods is also pretty highly rated 01:27:25
overall. 01:27:29
Access to usable transit is where we see the most division in residence perceptions. 01:27:33
And mostly that's. 01:27:39
Just a normal distribution of attitude about transit. When we look at the share of residents who actually use transit in the city, 01:27:41
that's not particularly surprised. 01:27:45
We asked residents about streetlights in the city where they feel there were too many in the right house or not enough. But most 01:27:54
residents feel that there are the right amount of streetlights in the city, but very few indicate that there are too many. We have 01:28:01
about 40% of residents who say that there are not enough and the overall quality of streetlights, whether they are too bright or 01:28:07
not bright enough, about 2/3 of residents say that they are. 01:28:14
Of getting about one in 10 residents requesting. 01:28:21
That they gave less rights and then just shy of 1/4 of residents saying that the light in the city is not bright enough so. 01:28:24
Frankly, no real conclusive evidence here that there is an overwhelming problem. 01:28:32
We do have a majority of residents sort of in that adequate amount and quality category. 01:28:40
But definitely some. 01:28:46
Suggestion that there there are areas of the city that would like to see additional streetlights. 01:28:48
Happy to highlight those areas in a map as a follow up as well. 01:28:54
The vast majority of residents don't use public transit. 01:29:01
Probably not particularly surprising here. 01:29:05
And mostly, that's just a matter of preference. Residents would rather drive or. 01:29:08
A cycle or walk? 01:29:14
Mostly personal vehicles. 01:29:16
Or among those residents who might be open to considering using transit, the concern is that they can't get to where they need to 01:29:18
go using the current UTA bus system. 01:29:23
Current browsing that one entire residence also say that they're unfamiliar with the systems available to them. 01:29:29
When we look at the share of residents who might be open to. 01:29:39
Using transit in the future, if there were changes or improvements made, additional types of transit and holiday if we were 01:29:45
looking at. 01:29:48
Streetcars and light rail. 01:29:52
That would encourage about one in four residents to consider using transit more often, or using it all. 01:29:54
I thought one in five residents would be interested if there were additional direct routes, particularly to the University of Utah 01:30:01
along Los Angeles Blvd. 01:30:04
Or more frequent bus service would be appealing for a reasonable share of residence. 01:30:09
About four out of 10 residents say that regardless of what improvements were made, they still would not be interested in using 01:30:15
public transit more often. 01:30:19
A quick look at city communications. We asked residents this year if they would be interested in a city newsletter that was mailed 01:30:25
to them separate from the city's insert in the Holiday Journal, and we see a reasonable appeal here. We have about 72% of 01:30:31
residents who say that they're at least someone interested in receiving that newsletter. 01:30:38
And the ideal frequency is probably about once a quarter to bimonthly. 01:30:44
Where we have sort of critical mass there question on that was for physically not one as a that's random and it's clear that. 01:30:50
It's in addition to what they already get funds, yes. Yep, that was explicitly stated in the question. So in addition to. 01:30:59
What is already in the in the Holiday journal and emails that they go with a physical newsletter that we've emailed out. 01:31:06
About once a quarter or once every two months, there's appealing to a large sugar. 01:31:13
We have about 1/3 of residents who report contacting the city office in the past year when we asked residents to. 01:31:21
Talk a little bit about their experiences. We see pretty positive attitudes on the whole about the customer service experience. 01:31:29
When one resident says when this is encapsulates seems pretty well. 01:31:37
I really need to contact the city but when I do they are accessible, friendly and responsive. So very appreciative. 01:31:42
Comments from some residents and then we have. 01:31:49
Most of the discontent that residents expressed when reaching out to a city office is. 01:31:52
Typically frustration about the resolution of their issue not going the way they would have preferred or happening as quickly as 01:31:59
they would like. Less so a concern about the actual interaction with the city of the ship. 01:32:04
And overall we have. 01:32:12
46% of residents who say they were satisfied with this, they gave response to their outreach. 01:32:14
We have 41% of residents who say there were at least some degree dissatisfied. 01:32:21
Really even distribution here, especially when we're looking at that smaller share of residents who did reach out to the city. 01:32:26
Again, largely concerns about whether the issue was resolved in a way that was. 01:32:36
Favorable in residence perception more so than. 01:32:42
Than interactions with the city. 01:32:45
So some frustrations there about. 01:32:48
About how things played out. 01:32:51
Separate. 01:32:56
Now looking at some specific city initiatives we have. 01:32:57
A large majority of residents, maybe 2% in total, who feel that it's at least somewhat important that the city. 01:33:00
Prioritize sustainability thinking for the future. 01:33:06
And the priority projects are things that residents would be most supportive. Supportive of in that vein are preserving and 01:33:12
planting trees, water conservation first and foremost and then again the statistical tie for our third most popular project here 01:33:18
when we look at waste management so additional. 01:33:24
Instruction on how to reduce waste of immune products. More recycling opportunities. 01:33:31
And then reducing carbon emissions to improve air quality. 01:33:36
Transitioning to renewable energy sources is appealing to just shy of capital presidents, or just shy of half. Feel that that 01:33:40
should be a priority. 01:33:44
Just about 1/3 of residents are interested in seeing the city encourage more alternative ones of transportation. 01:33:48
Rather than personal vehicle use then sort of consistent with what we see in terms of current. 01:33:55
Public transit usage and interest in future public transit usage. 01:34:01
Indianapolis housing and development in the city. 01:34:07
Pretty consistent themes of what we've seen here in the past, although I will note that the interest in having some form of higher 01:34:11
density or mixed-use development somewhere in the city has increased. 01:34:17
Overall slightly compared to 2022, but our patterns are pretty similar. Overall residents are most interested in single family 01:34:24
homes or traditional look and feel of holiday in their area. 01:34:30
But would be interested in seeing. 01:34:36
Small shopping center, sort of. 01:34:39
Hyperlocal commercial opportunities. 01:34:41
Small shopping center, mixed-use developments and have some appeal. 01:34:44
We're looking at opportunities for density that are most appealing for residents in their own backyards. 01:34:48
Single family garden, courtyard style homes or accessory dwelling units are the most popular there. 01:34:55
And again, sort of mixed-use filling in that gap between that hyper local commercial and some higher density housing 01:35:03
opportunities. 01:35:07
26% of residents feel that apartments are necessary. It would be nice to have somewhere in the city and that has increased 01:35:12
compared to 2022. 01:35:17
So I think that's. 01:35:22
A pretty stark commentary on residents concerns or focus on the housing issue throughout the state. So that's not necessarily 01:35:25
unique to holiday, although the openness to that particular type of development. 01:35:32
As long as it's happening not in their neighborhoods, essentially is a little bit. 01:35:39
I have a question on that side. We could look at that same data but. 01:35:46
In a crosstown with IH. 01:35:53
Personally, I'd be very interested in seeing them. Yep, we can take others follow up. 01:35:55
We also asked presidents a few questions about public health and to what extent. 01:36:04
A variety of public health issues might be concerns or things that have had an impact on them or members of their households. 01:36:11
The most common things that residents said have affected them or, again, members of their household. 01:36:19
Include respiratory diseases, mental health challenges including depression and anxiety. 01:36:26
Insufficient or no health insurance coverage. 01:36:31
Inability or difficulty carrying out daily tasks due to health related conditions. Like look at the population demographics of the 01:36:34
community. A lot of these things make sense. 01:36:39
We also see a particularly large share of residents pointing to cardiovascular diseases on the whole. 01:36:44
As something that has affected them remembers their household. 01:36:51
Some of the other comments here are. 01:36:54
Are, I think, instructed as to what residents see as some of the key public health issues? 01:37:00
We can dive a little bit more into that, but we had. 01:37:05
So few residents responding and saying that these things were. 01:37:08
Of particular concern to them, again, you see the sample size there is much smaller than our our city. 01:37:14
Sample as a whole. 01:37:20
So I don't want to be too much into this, which is why they aren't on the slide, but a few comments from residents that I think 01:37:22
are. 01:37:25
Are helpful. 01:37:30
We also ask residents to have questions about their level of emergency preparedness or their perception of their level of 01:37:34
emergency preparedness and that of local organizations. 01:37:39
Most residents fuel. Our households are at least somewhat well prepared. 01:37:44
We have a majority of residents who feel local churches are at least somewhat well prepared as well. 01:37:47
The state government, just shy of half of residents, feel as well. 01:37:53
At just 39% of restaurants feel that holiday city is barriers on what well prepared, but almost half of residents say they don't 01:37:58
know enough to express so there is definitely. 01:38:04
An opportunity to engage the community in emergency preparedness here and make sure that they know what resources are available 01:38:09
from the city, what the city. 01:38:13
Or what plans supposed to be have in place in the event of some type of community emergency. 01:38:18
The groups or organizations that residents are most likely to turn to in the events of an emergency, their household sort of the 01:38:27
frontline here, three out of four residents, they they're very likely to seek support from their household. 01:38:34
City government, state government sort of statistically tied here in terms of residents willingness or likelihood to reach out for 01:38:42
support. 01:38:46
23% of residents, just shy of one in four, say they would be very likely to reach out to the city. 01:38:52
Local churches are the next organization that residents are. 01:38:58
Most likely to say they're very likely to reach out to. 01:39:02
So probably no real surprises here. We get an opportunity for increased education. 01:39:05
When it comes to how residents would prefer to hear about potential emergencies or things that. 01:39:13
Affects the community as a whole looking for reliable news and updates. Those is our most interested in receiving text messages. 01:39:19
Just shy of 40% say that that would be their preferred way of receiving information. 01:39:26
In talking with Gina and Holly as we were crafting this question, one of the things that I think. 01:39:33
Would be fascinating as we're talking to residents about emergency preparedness is. 01:39:39
What happens and where they turn in the event of a cell phone network outage? 01:39:45
So that sort of stark comparison there, I'm thinking about those resources that are. 01:39:50
Online or potentially more vulnerable? 01:39:56
Social media being the next most common requested or sought after source of reliable information. Again, there's a lot of 01:40:00
opportunity for. 01:40:05
Education when it comes to emergency preparedness and and disaster plans. 01:40:11
And that concludes our whirlwind tour of this year's survey results. 01:40:19
Any I know drinking from a fire hose but any immediate questions? 01:40:23
We talked about this before, but you can never get salary since that you finished up. 01:40:29
Umm, do you ever do anything that showed like a like a like a period analysis anonymized kind of a thing where? 01:40:36
Either a print houses or. 01:40:41
Surrounding areas where you if you hit your house, since I don't, I mean I'm assuming that you get those since it's public record. 01:40:43
We go and look at it be really interesting to see Milk Creek couldn't. 01:40:48
Heights and, you know, maybe Murray. 01:40:54
Some of these things like. 01:40:57
Yeah, he has. 01:40:59
Formally aggregated those things. 01:41:00
That all just sort of lives in our collective brain. So, but yeah, we'd be happy to do a little bit of that sort of New York 01:41:03
State. I guess I would just plant the seed. I think it would be something that could be interesting. 01:41:09
It's a happy to share how great we are with our neighborhood. 01:41:16
Yeah, yeah. 01:41:32
Yeah, I mean partly. 01:41:39
You know when we missed. 01:41:42
Don't miss the book so much as where are opportunities for approving the face of I don't see. 01:41:45
I don't see much difference in our data. 01:41:50
Year over year in terms of telling us on. 01:41:53
It seems to me like because what we want to do is take this information and then and then use it to help us. 01:41:58
You know, prioritize your budgeting that's coming up in the next couple of weeks. 01:42:04
We're really prioritized her. I think put our emphasis is in. 01:42:08
The arts and it's in investments in streets and infrastructure and. 01:42:13
Project safety trees. Yet surface maintenance is flat basically. I mean think of all the roads. 01:42:19
24 to 77. 01:42:28
And it was like flat. And so that's where. 01:42:30
Offence. 01:42:32
That's where it just makes you think, well. 01:42:35
What came up in 2019 like that? But in 2018, that's when a lot of it hit. 01:42:37
Oh. 01:42:53
So. 01:42:58
And. 01:43:01
Well, like I look see Bruce? 01:43:05
Districts, you know, because almost every vote was read in our districts, right? And so it'd be really nice to isolate that. 01:43:07
You know. 01:43:16
Yeah, in your particular. 01:43:20
Likely to favor them satisfied or. 01:43:25
For yourself, so happy to do a little bit of follow up there. 01:43:29
And I would love to see that on the street thing I was interested in about the 10 versus 40% as I recall. 01:43:34
Where they thought there was, I looked at maps to say OK. 01:43:41
Are there some certain areas where? 01:43:44
Discount, yeah. Especially interested. Yeah, yeah. The street lights I think are particularly not that I want to put St. lights 01:43:47
in. I'd love to see the data just to see if there was. 01:43:52
If it's, you need some substance. 01:43:57
If there are additional questions after you have a little bit more time to skip this, we're happy to follow up via e-mail. 01:44:04
I can reach out to Gina. 01:44:10
Thank you so much. That's a lot of work. 01:44:13
That's helpful to us for sure. 01:44:17
We love the opportunity. Thanks again. Thank you. 01:44:18
All right. 01:44:26
Here he comes. 01:44:32
He said Jared for one slide. Wait, is it Jared? Oh, I'm sorry, it's not Jeremy. I was originally planning to be telling you. 01:44:33
Preston, Oh, you can say. 01:44:46
Home and start moving. 01:44:51
Strength the weights finally over you get a financial policies. 01:45:06
OK. So it's just gotten has very much been a collaborative effort from me, Gina, Holly, her previous intern River did a lot of 01:45:12
work on it and I think it originally started as midfield Financial Policy and it's sort of. 01:45:18
Worked in the holidays so this is very much a draft document so I'd love the council's input and things. 01:45:25
We've changed our group to make it more aligned with the Council's vision. 01:45:30
So my plan, I don't want to just sit here and read 13 pages worth of financial policies at you. So I'd like to just. 01:45:34
Things that I think are particularly relevant to the Council, if you have you want to talk about, just jump in and let me and we 01:45:41
can talk about those too. 01:45:45
So the general purpose of this document is just to set Word parameters and guidelines for prudent fiscal operation and procedure 01:45:51
services. So it's. 01:45:55
Met the general policy to help guide us as we go. 01:45:59
And so starting off with the general fund reserve policy. 01:46:04
It's the food from the bottom here midway through at. 01:46:08
The state requires us to be between 5 and 35% of general fund revenues as a percent of general fund, excuse me, unassigned fund 01:46:12
balance as a percentage of general fund revenue. 01:46:18
This policy would basically. 01:46:23
Make that new limit into 15% of general fund accounts as extended revenue. 01:46:26
Last year we were at 33.6%, which is about $7.8 million of underserved fund balance. 01:46:32
And then that 15%, if you look at 2024, if we were at the 15%, we have about 3 1/2. 01:46:38
So that's just a little bit of context with that policy. 01:46:45
Are there any other questions on the general funds? 01:46:49
Reserve policy. 01:46:52
The next one I wanted to point out was the stormwater utility fund. Within this one, we'd be setting a minimum of 60 days worth of 01:46:58
annual operating expenditures, no less than 60 days worth of annual operating expenses in this longwater utility month. And 01:47:05
basically what this means is so we take our operating expenditures within the stormwater utility fund, we divide it by 365 and we 01:47:11
take our current assets less our current liabilities and divide that by that percentage of the. 01:47:18
Operating expenditures that would give us our days working capital. 01:47:26
Which the goal would be to be at 60 days. I did this calculation for fiscal year 24 year only at 26 days. 01:47:30
Which isn't particularly surprising, just considering. 01:47:37
Museum Water Utility Fund is. 01:47:40
But that would be an aspirational goal for the city of 60 days worth of annual operating expenses within that fund. 01:47:43
And. 01:47:52
It's beside the flowing. 01:47:53
Is it seems things like that? 01:47:55
So it's pretty soon to tell in fiscal year 23 compared to 24. 01:47:56
The fund balance, the unassigned fund balance within that one actually increase. 01:48:02
But it's it's such a small dollar amount, it's. 01:48:09
500,700 thousand, it's really small dollar amount in terms of. 01:48:11
As a whole, when you consider we had. 01:48:16
$8 million worth of projects, we're working on it, all these other things that are going on within the fund so. 01:48:18
I would say that it's too soon to tell at this point, but we are currently in discussion with Louisiana Communicable advisors 01:48:24
potentially looking at a rate increase with some water utility fund. 01:48:29
And they're gonna be doing analysis to see if that would be your current decision for us. 01:48:34
It's kind of planned. 01:48:38
Right. Yeah. 01:48:40
I think when you look at that, there's the bulk of. 01:48:43
The revenue is going to be committed to the bond payment and then we have a little bit that's that pays for. 01:48:47
Personnel, personnel, but piece of that and so. 01:48:54
What's left is what you have left for start and end. It's probably a shrink. Keep shrinking. 01:48:58
Anyway, so just understand the rationale for that though, is there some variability in? 01:49:04
Expenses for that house still kind of a cushion for yeah, the rationale would be. 01:49:09
Generally, if your current assets should be. 01:49:14
At least substantially not. You know you want some cushion between the current assets and your current liabilities so that you 01:49:18
know you can cover those liabilities in the short term. 01:49:22
So the idea behind having at least those 60 days was that you can meet your short term obligations at the very least. 01:49:26
And does the storm water do the revenue some storm water fees? 01:49:36
The magic, that payment, I mean, is it? I mean, I guess if you guess what I wonder is why would we think that we would ever come 01:49:40
up with it, you know? 01:49:44
Shortage there it would be. 01:49:48
It is still random sinkhole. 01:49:51
Well, yeah, it's not just those specific costs that we have. 01:49:53
Things like that. 01:50:01
That makes sense. 01:50:04
Right, right. 01:50:07
OK. 01:50:08
Continuing on from there. 01:50:11
Their revenue policy, so about midway through that page. 01:50:13
The policy states that Solid won't use one time revenues towards ongoing expenditures. So say for instance, the state came down 01:50:18
from on high and said here's $1,000,000. 01:50:23
We wouldn't necessarily just budget that to cover personnel costs or things like that and to avoid doing a rate increase if we 01:50:28
needed to, we would use that for like a capital expansion to. 01:50:33
Improve infrastructure with the city. We wouldn't use those one time funds. 01:50:39
For an ongoing cost. 01:50:43
And then the next one, the mayor actually pointed this one out. 01:50:47
It states administrative fees will be charged by the general funds of the enterprise funds. 01:50:50
To recapture admin costs basically. So this would be like genius time. 01:50:56
And all these kind of my time. 01:51:00
Helping to manage the school market utility fund. And so we're recapturing a portion of those costs back to the general fund 01:51:03
because our salaries aren't charged there. 01:51:07
The original amount that was set to be charged from the Stormwater Utility Fund back to the general fund was established when the 01:51:12
fund was first made. 01:51:16
And this was a recommendation from Lewis Young One. 01:51:21
He originally set up the fund. 01:51:23
And we plan to engage with Young to see if we should potentially look at increasing matter adjustment. 01:51:25
Necessary, but it's not based off of a percent of the fund or. 01:51:32
Or a fix You think it's? 01:51:37
$20,000. 01:51:39
I think it was based on a percentage of our times. 01:51:41
And I think it was maybe 3 to 5%. 01:51:46
Total of the. 01:51:50
3.5% of your expire. 01:51:51
Of the administrative numbers, yeah. So I'm not a huge number. 01:51:54
And that hasn't changed since it was first. 01:51:59
But is that an equal percent for you and you and Jared are shared of a higher? 01:52:01
Slice so Jared's salary specifically just in making it get coded to the utility fund. 01:52:06
This would be for like Holly G Sniper. That's right, Jared and Joe specifically already have a port of their salaries. 01:52:12
All right. And then a little further down it just states that. 01:52:20
We use a conservative approach, things where budgeting forecasted revenues. 01:52:28
And every year, as part of the budget process will present. 01:52:32
The forecast to the Council of where we expect the revenues to be in those future years. 01:52:36
And then in the expenditure policy. 01:52:48
Second paragraph from the bottom it says in the mayor actually pointed this one. 01:52:51
This out too and I think it's a great addition and the sort of adjustments of this policy. 01:52:56
It's the midpoint of the cities salary range is more than 5% below the market for any given position. The greater the particular 01:53:01
position will be adjusted upward and the mayor had suggested, you know, do we really want to have a policy that would find us in 01:53:06
such. 01:53:11
Black and white lay. 01:53:17
And Gina and I talked about this and we thought about adding additional language that would say, you know, subject to budget 01:53:18
experience or maybe something like subject to. 01:53:22
Manager. City Manager Expressions. 01:53:27
That would help give us a little bit more protection if that's something came up that we didn't expect. 01:53:30
And then another thing that the mayor and I had discussed. 01:53:36
Next stage, This is the operating budget policy. 01:53:48
This is the third paragraph from the bottom. It states that the city manager has the ability to reality. 01:53:51
Where interdepartmental budget realities can be required. 01:53:59
It's to be brought to the council. 01:54:03
And this is a pretty typical policy. You'll see it in those cities. 01:54:07
Whenever composing about city, this is the policy and this is also the policy in Midvale. If you if you want to establish a policy 01:54:11
that would have. 01:54:15
A requirement to go to the Council to reallocate budget within just the department level. 01:54:19
You're going to end up with a lot more. 01:54:24
A lot more discussion because it happens fairly regularly, but things like that. 01:54:27
So I would recommend we. 01:54:32
Do it as written, but there is room for discussion there. But something. Yeah. But my only question there was, was is there a 01:54:34
limit to that? 01:54:38
You know, because I get if it's interdepartmental, no, we don't want to be so bureaucratic when your budget if there's a 20 or 01:54:46
$30,000 shift in the department. 01:54:52
Is that something that we should bring to the Council? Have you ever seen any policies? I know in UFA I thought we had something 01:54:58
that was. 01:55:02
There was a certain. 01:55:08
Limit. 01:55:09
So you may have a policy, and this is fairly public. 01:55:11
When some of these. 01:55:15
You can reallocate. 01:55:17
And then left in the remaining. 01:55:20
Operational items, but not between us. 01:55:22
So that might be something that they have, yeah. I mean, the way I interpret this is. 01:55:27
Once we set the budget. 01:55:32
Umm, if you have shifts you need to make inside of a departmental, but you just make them, we don't need them. 01:55:35
But if there's a shift from one, that's. 01:55:42
I'm going to move $20,000 from here this line item to this line item. 01:55:45
Is that something that? 01:55:50
The Council needs to know about or is it just as long as we stay within that departmental budget? 01:55:52
We don't. 01:55:57
Because we don't care. I would say the difficulty with that as well as establishing what that limit would be because 20,000 in 01:55:58
admin isn't the same as 20,000 in public safety or 20,000 in. 01:56:04
To Catholic projects so. 01:56:10
So we would have to look at trying to find where do you establish materiality, right, exactly. 01:56:12
Yeah. 01:56:19
Like the idea of. 01:56:20
Distinction. 01:56:23
Other expenses. 01:56:25
Well. 01:56:27
No salaries already have good. 01:56:33
That might be. 01:56:37
They do, but. 01:56:41
I mean, examples that I have seen are, let me just tell you what happened to me, right? But I've seen department heads. 01:56:42
Not higher positions. And then use that, use that fund for maybe an outside study, something like that. 01:56:51
And and as it currently is. 01:57:00
I would bring that to you, but the policy doesn't require it, so if that's the kind of thing you're interested in, we could work 01:57:03
on. 01:57:06
That's pretty reasonable. Consider sorry. 01:57:12
You know, it's not something I'm concerned about. I just want to make sure we understand the mechanics of the policy then that, 01:57:24
you know. 01:57:27
Once we set the budget, we've seen the budget, we have to have a budget adjustment, but inside the inside those departmental 01:57:32
funds. 01:57:35
Those funds can move other than there are things here that have to be brought to the council. 01:57:39
You're just going to hire somebody or you know those? 01:57:45
I also did that I'll. 01:57:48
How granular? 01:57:51
And. 01:57:53
And if major categories and subcategories. 01:57:57
If you're within a subcategory. 01:58:00
Yeah, but if you're switching not only departments, but major categories and for us. 01:58:05
South, you know, with salary issue standing and excluding. 01:58:11
Well, because our big budget items are contracts to expire and tell you or whatever. 01:58:15
Once we get past the department of budget like it is going to subcategory so. 01:58:23
It's not something I'm worried about, I just thought I'd bring it to your attention and say what? Just so you know, this is not 01:58:28
working. 01:58:31
And also from an audit perspective, the auditors are reviewing our financial statements at the end of the year. They look at it 01:58:35
from a department level. 01:58:39
So say for instance we were over budget on individual line item, but we were OK within that department, that would be a finding 01:58:43
better. 01:58:47
It also states that just a little bit further on the very last paragraph, it states that in accordance. 01:58:55
You just say code, we'll have the budget adopted prior to June 30th unless we're doing the truth in taxation and which will have 01:59:03
it adopted for September 1st. 01:59:08
Moving on to Capital Asset Management. 01:59:21
Actually a few things we don't want to mention in here. 01:59:23
The city will develop and maintain a capital improvement plan, which includes realistic project timing, scope and operating budget 01:59:27
impacts. 01:59:30
Also I wanted to mention. 01:59:35
Funds remaining within a project budget after the completion of a project may be reappropriated for other projects. So say for 01:59:37
instance, we're working on a specific project. 01:59:42
It came in under budget. We could reappropriate it for a different project. 01:59:48
Put on to the long term financial planning. 01:59:56
Just in that first or second paragraph of page 7. 02:00:00
Each year, the city staff will present the presentation that's forecasting operating expenditures for the next 5 years. I think 02:00:06
when we did our. 02:00:10
Retreat few months ago it covered. 02:00:14
A projection of revenues, but I did cover a project interest managers. So this would be a new thing that we would add next year 02:00:17
during your retreat I would talk about it. 02:00:22
Expenditures so. 02:00:26
And moving down to the debt section, the very last paragraph of page 7. 02:00:28
Best service as a percentage of general fund expenditures. 02:00:38
As a percent of general expenditures of the general fund will not exceed 15%. So I did this calculation for fiscal year coming 02:00:41
forward, which is our most recent audited financial statements and we were at 7.8%. 02:00:48
Which would leave us with an additional $1.3 million worth of annual debt expenditure would take at and this is just really 02:00:55
relevant because Spring Lane and the City College model. 02:01:00
And I revealed the debt schedules that were provided to us from Lewis and Yang and just to see how that would play in if we 02:01:05
decided to add it. And I believe one of the amortization schedules we provided us had a setup where. 02:01:11
The debt payments in the early years were lower and then they would increase as those other debt payments dropped off and I 02:01:18
believe the first one dropped off around 2033. So those payments were lower and then they as they drop off that payment for spring 02:01:22
lanes. 02:01:27
Would increase and how close are we getting to 15% in mail here? Yes. So in fiscal year 24, we had $1.3 million worth of room. 02:01:33
According to the debt schedule, we would have a $1.17 million worth of additional debt payments. So we would still be below that 02:01:38
15%, but it would be relatively close. 02:01:44
And then by 2033, the debt payment increased to 1.5 million. 02:01:50
What we would expect by 2023. 02:01:54
Or the single fund expenditures would have increased by 20 what, 203333? Yeah, some of those other payments crop up at that point 02:01:57
too, right, exactly. So yeah, they would drop off and we would expect that we had. 02:02:05
So I wouldn't succeed. 02:02:13
Yeah, because I think they're trying to smooth that. So when at that point that the debt stays kind of the same, that one goes up, 02:02:14
OK. 02:02:18
It just improves me and I just my. We've probably said it helps you clarify language. 02:02:24
Turn around on the publication. 02:02:32
That it sounds true. 02:02:37
That was great. 02:02:39
All right, fantastic. 02:02:48
All right, moving on to Page 8, sort of near the bottom. This isn't the accounting, auditing and finance or reporting section. 02:02:51
Capacity to states that the city has established an audit committee and I believe some of them are reserved on the audit 02:02:59
committee. This policy just makes it so we have a formal policy that we will have this and. 02:03:04
I think it had originally been. 02:03:09
Established so that we could get those. 02:03:11
Those points from the state. So this just makes it a formal policy. So we have that written down somewhere. 02:03:13
This next page. 02:03:23
So second paragraph of page 9. 02:03:26
It mentions that a monthly budget for his action report would be provided to the council, which are currently doing. 02:03:29
But it also mentions that. 02:03:35
A checklist thing shall be provided to the mayor monthly, and we currently do that. Every time we do a check around, I provide a 02:03:37
list of the checks to the mayor with the backup to those checks. 02:03:41
And I just wanted to mention it because we could. 02:03:45
Add that to the Council into that as well, as the Council is interested in seeing a checklist from the checklist that we do. 02:03:47
I do not. I won't worry about it. 02:03:54
It's common in a lot of these, yeah. Like USA and UPD. That's. 02:03:57
One of the consent agenda items. 02:04:02
Well, thus they'll typically give you the listing check laws. 02:04:05
But this will actually come with some of the detail that backs up that check, like the copy of the invoice. 02:04:11
And I could do. I could do either like if it don't make it sound so awful. 02:04:18
Just a checking list. 02:04:24
This would be no problem. 02:04:26
I mean, that's what's common, yeah. 02:04:28
And a gentleman. 02:04:33
I've been providing all of the back of the Americas. So that's for check signing. Yeah, you know, right, He is a signer, but he 02:04:36
typically is a sign effects usually Italian Gina, but I like to finish. 02:04:41
Right. So since he is a signer. 02:04:46
It seems like the Council is not interested, which is totally fine. One last report for me, right? 02:04:52
OK, going a little bit further down, this is the third graph from the bottom of page 9. 02:04:59
Basically it just states that. 02:05:05
When a new employee starts, we'll provide them with a copy of the employee handbook. 02:05:07
And the employees required to sign saying they received it and that they understand the policy. 02:05:11
It also states that. 02:05:16
Council members and employees are required to report any conflicts of interest and and. 02:05:18
Refrain from participating in or deliberating on any matters regarding those conflicts of interest. 02:05:22
OK, Next, the procurement policy. This really just sort of folds into our existing policy, which is the Chapter 2.11 in the city 02:05:30
code. 02:05:35
But it basically just states that. 02:05:40
The city will compile with all federal laws and regulations for procurement. 02:05:43
And this policy won't. 02:05:47
You know, keep the city from complying with any grant conditions. 02:05:49
So this one's pretty general and sort of walks into the. 02:05:54
Policy. 02:05:58
Page 11. 02:06:01
This is cancer season and deposits. I just had a few things I want to mention here. 02:06:03
We've the third paragraph down. It outlines the types and checks that the city would not accept, which would be illegible checks, 02:06:08
checks that are old, checks that are in the foreign currency. These are just. 02:06:14
Payments that the city doesn't want to accept. 02:06:20
And additionally, the next paragraph, the United States that the city will be in compliance with the state laws regarding deposit 02:06:26
policies. So we collect all the receipts and all the deposits every day, but we're required to take those deposits to the bank at 02:06:30
least once every three business days. 02:06:35
And that's the state line. This is just saying. 02:06:40
Next, the investment policy and this is sort of folded into another conversation with. 02:06:47
DNA and I have been having about potentially looking at an investment advisor working with the firm and you know taking a portion 02:06:51
of the cash that we currently have in the CIF and investing in with one of those burdens that potentially they'll be getting a 02:06:55
better return. 02:07:00
And this is sort of. 02:07:04
Gone by the wayside just because the PCIS has been performing relatively well recently. 02:07:07
So maybe this is a conversation that we want to look at kind. 02:07:12
Expanding umm. 02:07:15
If the PTS starts to not perform as well. 02:07:17
But basically. 02:07:20
I want to cast it all with Barry. 02:07:24
And if we decided to go that way, we wanted to work with investment advisor, we may need to work on a more robust policy. 02:07:34
That would meet the requirements of the money management. 02:07:47
Christian, do you know of other, I've never heard of other municipalities that that move their funds outside of the smaller 02:07:50
municipalities. Do you know, do I know? 02:07:55
Yeah, yeah, they, they kept the majority of their cash with the PTIF, but I think they had around like. 02:08:00
2 to $3,000,000 with an investment firm which is the one that we met with, which is Morton Investment Advisors. 02:08:07
And what are we going to test? 02:08:14
Oh man. Well it'd be it'd be our fund balances, right. Well, no that would the fund balance would fund balance is just year over 02:08:18
year revenue and excessive expenditure is not necessarily the actual cash. 02:08:24
I can give you those caption works, I don't want to try to guess them off this offline. 02:08:30
Well, if there's something sizeable, I think it's, it is, it certainly works. So you have to have a pretty conservative policy 02:08:34
with regard to the types of investments. 02:08:39
The US Treasury is very likely. 02:08:43
OK after play. 02:08:46
That's definitely a conversation you. 02:08:51
Well, explain that to me now. 02:08:55
The fund balance has always been a curious thing. 02:08:57
Because I mean, essentially what it's saying is that. 02:09:01
We have taken in more money. 02:09:04
Then we budgeted to meet. So that's not real money. That's just the that's just other forms. For instance, it could, it could be 02:09:08
in my hitchhiking or it could be in receivable. 02:09:13
Or it could be. 02:09:18
It's not necessarily. 02:09:20
The cast it could be in other forms. The assets could be like. 02:09:22
Against. 02:09:26
So if you want to go spend the 10 or $11 million to. 02:09:27
Remodel this and we write a check for it. Is the money there? Does it exist? It exists for the like Dumb and Dumber where you just 02:09:32
skipping the IOU. 02:09:35
Spectrum Money. 02:09:41
You have to sell a picture. 02:09:43
It's Steve. 02:09:49
But. 02:09:53
Now, but we should have something that says. 02:09:57
Yes, Holiday Bank and Trust, we have this much and sign this much and then PTIF we have this much, yeah. 02:10:02
Is it a lot or? 02:10:09
Think it would be? 02:10:13
Collective fund problems and something. 02:10:20
It's because. 02:10:22
That's just. 02:10:24
So that picture is going to look different in at the end of September. It's going to look at the end of March, right? We really 02:10:28
want to see is what's the. 02:10:32
You know what's the value I guess of where that sits up with some. 02:10:36
So the PCF, how does that perform? 02:10:42
Has been doing relatively well in recent years, and prior to recent years it's been a skipped. 02:10:45
The Chennai tracks treasuries and. 02:10:51
High quality interest rate here, so it's been around. 02:10:56
45%. 02:10:59
So like the federal funds rate, Yeah, CD rates kind of and. 02:11:01
Treasury rights. 02:11:07
And I think that holds into the we had met with more an investment by and they had called it a reverse, they called a reverse 02:11:09
yield curve that we've seen in recent years so. 02:11:14
That's an area I'm not as skilled in, but the short term money I was paying more than long term. Exactly. Yeah. 02:11:20
OK, definitely we can restart the conversation about looking at an investment advice. 02:11:28
And then further on deposit just states that the city would be in compliance with the money management act of the state. 02:11:36
OK. Moving on to the credit card policy. So this is credit card payments. We would be payments that the city is taking in from 02:11:44
people making payments to us. 02:11:48
3rd paragraph from the bottom it just states that the city will not get cash advances on credit cards. 02:11:54
Credit card skins will not be accepted over the phone or by mail. Just do the high risk of that. 02:12:01
I wouldn't want to have a situation where an employee is like taking down someone's credit card information on. 02:12:06
And matters that just because of the risk that loses to the city in general. 02:12:11
Also, mailing in credit card information is just. 02:12:16
Or like it so OK. 02:12:20
Are refunding a different? 02:12:24
Card than what you collected on the issue. Last sentence brought all over it. 02:12:26
Yeah, last sentence of the second paragraph there, it just says that if we're issuing a refund, it will always be back onto the 02:12:31
card that made the original transaction. 02:12:35
OK. And then page 13, the last page. 02:12:41
If the city becomes aware that. 02:12:45
A customer's credit card had been compromised. The city would take steps to notify those individuals immediately. 02:12:48
And as well contact the merchant bank, local law enforcement. 02:12:54
And let everyone know. 02:12:58
OK. And Christian, that's going to have to be? 02:13:01
Wrapped in with our data privacy, OK. 02:13:05
Issue SO. 02:13:08
Ogilvy. 02:13:10
Yeah, that one would happen. Is that policy? 02:13:12
Things around like a breach. 02:13:19
Security rates that remember. 02:13:23
But we retain. 02:13:26
Questions we don't umm, that's that's kind of a good thing. It just. 02:13:28
The bill that was passed in the legislature described to have a policy and we have to say what information is. 02:13:36
Is grandma won't sell it one like a building permit form? 02:13:42
Or any of those forms. It just says this information is public. 02:13:46
But it's using network to my credit card information or anything just. 02:13:51
The basics, yeah, I just confirmed we really don't. 02:13:55
Select or non retainer? Not that I'm not that I'm aware of. 02:13:58
OK. And then the very last section is just about? 02:14:05
The city issued credit cards. These are the cards that employees have. 02:14:08
And then third paragraph from the bottom, it basically states that cardholders are responsible for securing their own credit card 02:14:12
and making sure that all purchases are associated with business activities and that they maintain proper documentation receipts 02:14:17
for all transactions. 02:14:22
Any unauthorized purchases or misuse of a card could result in severe consequences, up to including determination of employment. 02:14:27
And then very last paragraph. 02:14:35
Upon termination, for whatever reason, it is the supervisory responsibility to collect that. 02:14:39
Are from their employee, turn it into finance and then also. 02:14:44
Notify me. 02:14:50
So any questions, can we go back over anything? 02:14:54
Nobody has more than one credit card right now. 02:14:58
Well, we recently transitioned our credit card processing to move to something that is a. 02:15:01
You can submit receipts online rather than having paper receipts. We just need to that in the last couple months. So we currently 02:15:06
have two credit cards, but those will be the. 02:15:11
Yeah. In fact, we're going to talk specifically. 02:15:16
For Christian, so I think the. 02:15:30
The intent is to be a resolution. 02:15:38
And on the 17th, I mean, I don't think anything. Thank you. There's a couple at us. 02:15:41
I hope you're here for. 02:15:48
It hasn't even been to say that. 02:15:49
Well thanks for working on this. This is. 02:15:55
That's. 02:15:58
Growing up. 02:16:02
Ethan hungry? 02:16:05
Ventura, France. 02:16:07
Picture now. 02:16:10
What the statement of flying remains all the way. 02:16:13
Folks of the roads were paving. 02:16:24
You're welcome. Well, a lot of people don't be able to read it. 02:16:34
All we're going to see is that little. 02:16:38
Emily, District. 02:16:42
I will say through the defense. 02:16:44
This is truth districts. 02:16:50
No. 02:16:59
Oh yeah, well this is way further still on this. 02:17:00
Yeah, that's like 4 worst roads. 02:17:05
1. 02:17:13
Where do we advise you from again? 02:17:15
Unincorporated county, Yeah. 02:17:19
They had severely neglected. 02:17:23
A few things to note. 02:17:27
Regarding budget. 02:17:32
Our summer budget that we're gonna be spending is. 02:17:37
Generally set. 02:17:42
But let me back up. The previous three years, we've been spending additional money outside of the accounting contract. 02:17:46
Our bond funds. 02:17:54
That bond fund? 02:17:56
A year ago we were not sure if. 02:17:59
Do they have any money leftover for additional painting projects? I kind of thought that we would. 02:18:02
We I did not propose any additional paving projects. 02:18:08
Look at this brain. 02:18:12
Umm, and. 02:18:15
It turns out we don't have any additional. 02:18:18
Paving projects for the spring. 02:18:22
What I'm going to propose here will be project. 02:18:26
Rows that will be paid this summer. 02:18:30
It will come out of our county contract. 02:18:33
That will start. 02:18:37
July 1st. 02:18:38
But we do like to get ahead on which roads are going to be paved. 02:18:40
With the county secretary requesting that stuff. 02:18:45
In the winter time, so. 02:18:48
Umm, these are roads that I gave to the county. 02:18:50
Back in December we have a TIFA modifications in the last. 02:18:55
A couple months. 02:19:01
We can add in Waco's drives to. 02:19:04
A list after seeing what? 02:19:08
Went really down to it. 02:19:11
With that said, we are spending about $300,000 out of the county contract and with that $300.00 we have. 02:19:14
About. 02:19:24
7 or 8 loads here. 02:19:27
We are on. 02:19:29
Total delay. What is not showing on this as far as paper preservation is we will be doing. 02:19:32
So leveling in a new microsurface on WASAF Blvd. that was funded as a part of the. 02:19:42
And that will be done. 02:19:48
So I. 02:19:51
8 lots of questions and. 02:19:55
So I actually. 02:19:59
If Drew's sister still has the three worst. 02:20:01
Why aren't we doing those ones? I know one has applied specific water and all that they they all have price. And in fact, I did 02:20:04
approach Salt Lake City this spring because they're. 02:20:10
Funding their projects starting. 02:20:17
July 1st as well, I said look. 02:20:19
Been asking you guys for three years to. 02:20:22
Replace the water main in these roads. 02:20:25
We get each of them annually. 02:20:28
It's on their project list. 02:20:30
And they keep. 02:20:33
Responding vaccine. 02:20:35
Right, next I can get funded this year. 02:20:37
I have talked to Drew. 02:20:40
Those roads are now in a condition where if we don't get them repaved. 02:20:41
It's the point where we would fall into a complete reconstruction of that of those roadways. 02:20:48
And so I am going to come to you guys. 02:20:55
A year from now. 02:21:00
And say, well, we already paid these roads. 02:21:02
Unfortunately, after we repaved those Reds. 02:21:04
It is quite possible to get dug right back up, yeah. 02:21:08
It's just. 02:21:16
Over and over and over, yeah. 02:21:22
Have been very nice to work. 02:21:25
But what I did felt, felt like speaking is once they do come in, if it's within five years. 02:21:27
If they do come in. 02:21:35
Place those Waterlinks. 02:21:38
They would be required to completely repave the road rate again. 02:21:41
So that would be part of a moratorium that we put on the road. So then they definitely wouldn't replace those things. 02:21:46
Who knows and we would end up in the past but. 02:21:53
It was kind of a threat I used in my e-mail. 02:21:57
A month ago when I asked them about it but they didn't seem to care. 02:22:00
So when you say the Lakewood, when you say the Lakewoods on the left, where is it? This right here. 02:22:05
Oh, I'm sorry, you need to zoom out to see it. I didn't see that. OK, so that that's on that. So I was talking to Jerry about this 02:22:12
earlier. 02:22:17
So this is just the use of. 02:22:22
The balance of the county public works budget that we have. So when we get into the budgeting process we had talked about. 02:22:25
As a priority, carving out 800 or 900,000 or $1,000,000 for roads. 02:22:34
So then we would take that piece, whatever that is, whatever. We haven't looked at the budget yet. 02:22:40
And then Jared would come back and say, OK. 02:22:45
This is accounting funds, but next spring, which is still next fiscal year, we would be. 02:22:50
We're gonna use the money for priorities 12345, you know, and. 02:22:56
Conceivably, that's when those roads would be. 02:23:01
Then hey, Maiden, yes, so we did our best bidding. 02:23:04
In the late winter. 02:23:08
So we like to bid in February. That way the contract does have a good idea of material costs. 02:23:12
And it's early in the season where we. 02:23:19
Where they like to get something out of the books. 02:23:22
So that they can. 02:23:25
Schedule our terms so. 02:23:27
Sometime mid-april. 02:23:29
May, early June, it knockout those streets. 02:23:31
Yeah, so this isn't. I just want to make sure the council knew that this isn't. 02:23:35
All that's going to be done next fiscal year on those and this is this. Well, this will get done after July 1st. 02:23:41
July, August is usually when accounting. 02:23:51
Well, that's right. Just thinking credit at that. 02:23:54
Yeah, they have a supply for it. They're not doing much. They are waiting till July 1st. 02:23:59
And not will feel it even though we planned for it later. You see, I thought this was next. 02:24:07
Fiscal years the the. 02:24:13
What we are anticipating, but this is what we have left this fiscal year that we're going to spend next fiscal year. No, it is. 02:24:16
Budget starting July 1st because we're out of money this year. 02:24:24
So, yeah, so I just want to make sure, you know, we're getting this, isn't it? We'll come back. 02:24:36
I'm sure Jared will come back in. 02:24:42
January or February with the budget we've set aside, when you go out the bid and say this is how we're going to prioritize, we're 02:24:44
going to spend the money, yeah. Or whenever. So in that month when Gina presents. 02:24:49
The budget to the City Council. 02:24:55
4th fiscal year 26 starting July 1st. That will include a minimum of 1/2. 02:24:58
Half $1,000,000 for additional roadway. 02:25:03
Ovaries, OK. And based on you know. 02:25:07
Survey results you want to. 02:25:12
Well, and how our budget looks, we don't know what the revenue projections are and what other issues we're going to face, but. 02:25:14
We had kind of made a commitment in the retreat that. 02:25:21
We were going to prioritize loads. 02:25:24
And instead of instead of having it be at the bottom and here's what we got left, we'll prioritize that. And then there may be 02:25:27
other places that suffer, but it's not going to be our road infrastructure. 02:25:33
And I think that's what our survey is telling us we should do, yeah. 02:25:39
So that when you've got faith in the 5th. 02:25:43
$300,000 on this page it would be in addition to. 02:25:46
Is this area that it would be a fun source for the semantic ways is that? 02:25:50
July. What's the distance? Let's go here. Yeah. So you guys will budget it come July 1st. 02:25:56
But I won't bid it until February. 02:26:03
And so it will be constructed next spring. 02:26:06
But we could have a, we could have a little debate prior to that in terms of. 02:26:09
What we think the priorities ought to be to go out to bid. 02:26:14
Yeah. And is that going back to the water main thing? Is there anything we can do to incentivize our partner then? 02:26:17
Maybe if you wanted to contribute to some thoughts. That's what I meant. Do we? Is there any way you can? 02:26:26
Sweeten the pot for that partner. 02:26:34
I mean, I was at a meeting. 02:26:38
Other city managers and there are other cities that manage both the water side and the roads away. 02:26:43
And it's it's a rough. 02:26:50
It's what sounds like it's rough damage, yeah. 02:26:55
So if we're going to stand, how slow are you going to be standing right there? 02:26:59
Yeah, 3 to $400,000, wouldn't that be illicit after $100,000, I'm not something good. 02:27:02
And if they're gonna happen? 02:27:10
Why? Why should we? 02:27:13
Well, I'm just saying if it makes more sense to do that, then it should be up twice. You know what you're saying? Yeah. Letting it 02:27:16
fall into the state of disrespect where you go reconstruction. 02:27:20
Is that so? Are you saying that the theory? 02:27:26
The study, yeah. 02:27:30
They may delay in putting. 02:27:37
Doing those improvements based on the fact that now we put a road over there and they got to replace it. 02:27:39
Yeah, that's what I was trying to figure out. 02:27:47
If there's a if there if, it's their obligation though to replace the road. 02:27:50
And we say that we're going to budget to replace the relatives you guys will put, you won't have to pay that cost. Isn't that 02:27:55
incentive to them? 02:27:58
I don't know when they will get this funded, it could still be several years out. 02:28:02
There's no guarantee that it's going to be next summer. 02:28:08
And they have a big network with a lot of means to replace but Infinity. 02:28:21
But why? I mean they should be. 02:28:27
Is it unrealistic to think that we could talk to somebody and tell them what our dilemma is and get an answer in terms of any kind 02:28:30
of idea when they might do it or? 02:28:36
I mean, it's just the answer. We'll get to it when we get there. Well, they have it on their plans to the human. 02:28:42
They do review it each. 02:28:47
Signing period. 02:28:50
Prioritize, but it's never made that priority list form. 02:28:53
They do have some fairly expensive projects, including. 02:28:58
Scans it. 02:29:02
I don't know if it's replaced them, but it's expansion of the reservoir. 02:29:05
Overall 6200 thousand only being bar. 02:29:09
They have some. 02:29:13
Very expensive projects, but even since you this water main project, I think you're. 02:29:15
It's still well over $1,000,000. 02:29:21
We're going to replace it in all Germans, so. 02:29:25
And there's no way, no way to get any indication of when they might possibly get them. 02:29:28
Now they do not. 02:29:35
I think they might internally have an idea, but. 02:29:37
But I don't think. 02:29:40
They wouldn't tell us. They never shared. 02:29:42
Are you good friends with Sarah Braesford? 02:29:48
Yeah, I believe it's certainly have a conversation with Dora and we were talking about maybe elevating it in a different way as 02:29:51
well. 02:29:55
And seeing if we could get some attention, I think what when they came two years ago, when Mark came two years ago. 02:29:59
She did reference the weather system and the investment. 02:30:07
The investment that they make in our jurisdiction. 02:30:12
So. 02:30:15
They are trying to balance it across the entirety of their system. 02:30:17
Umm as well. So I think that kind of thing helps against us. 02:30:21
It would be great though, if they could at least tell us what year. 02:30:27
Knowing that things contain. 02:30:31
Is this plan for 28? Is this plan for 32? Or is this just the on 8th? 02:30:35
Wish list of things don't get together that would be great to know. 02:30:41
Yeah, I mean it would be helpful even if they said. 02:30:47
We just can't tell you. I mean. 02:30:50
Because at that point, I think you just got to go and do it right. You can't let the road fail. 02:30:52
This is a row that people have been complaining about since October. 02:31:00
Is it really bad route? 02:31:06
Said I've gone, Yeah, you don't live there anymore. 02:31:08
I think, I think, yeah, I think NMP. 02:31:14
Behind somebody else? 02:31:21
So we can definitely have this conversation and see if we can get it before the Council actually allocates the money get to a 02:31:24
better. 02:31:28
That might be. 02:31:32
All right. 02:31:37
Just very quickly, we don't have closed session, I think we're done, right? 02:31:39
We don't have posted. 02:31:45
We don't have closed session. You don't have a mission at all yet or you wouldn't be sitting here. 02:31:47
And the 17th, everybody's here and remind me in May, we're meeting on the. 02:31:52
First, second and third right weeks, yes. 02:31:59
And somebody's not going to be. I'm not on the 8th and true, are you? 02:32:03
We we have we typically have the presentation of the tangent budget in a work session one another follow on meeting in May. 02:32:09
So that would be the. 02:32:19
Will it be the 8th, 15th and 22nd? 02:32:23
Yeah. Isn't this what I said in that graduate? Is that graduation in June or May the 1st, 8:15, first, eighth and 15, I'm sorry, 02:32:26
the 1st. 02:32:31
Yes, 1st, 8th and 15th. 02:32:37
So Paul will not be here on behalf. 02:32:41
So I guess what I'm wondering is, should we have an app? 02:32:46
Granted districts. 02:32:49
So we are looking forward to a closed session, OK. 02:32:51
Anything else that any without me till the 17th? Will you remind me coming up? 02:33:00
So at the end of the month, the first part of next month. 02:33:06
OK. I'll move to adjourn. 02:33:10
All in favor, aye, Chair and thank everybody. 02:33:14
Hey, thanks, Chief. 02:33:20
But the field of power? 02:33:24
Did you? 02:33:27
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Yes, we are. 00:00:07
OK. Well, thanks everybody. And we'll come with Holiday City Council meeting. We're on 5/5 and 3rd. 00:00:08
A couple of things real quick that many. 00:00:19
Not pretty much everybody because we've got a few more people because the boundary study. But this is a work session. You don't 00:00:23
have anything scheduled for both. We have some public comment like it's just. 00:00:28
And open the session. These are all open meetings for the public, but you're not going to. We won't have public comment and we 00:00:34
won't be voting on interface tonight, so. 00:00:38
Reviewing what's been agenda, I don't know if anybody's here well. 00:00:43
I wasn't having been bringing up with you. 00:00:48
So we will just get right to it. And the first time on the agenda is the ground school district boundary presentation. We have 00:00:52
Steve Hovind here from from Granite School District to update us. 00:00:57
Just have a little bit of introduction. 00:01:04
We have been through this before, we went through a couple of years ago. 00:01:06
On the the West side of the West side of the east side of the district. 00:01:10
And resulted in a couple of schools who were familiar with the issues. 00:01:15
Surrounding this but are looking forward to seeing. 00:01:20
Umm, where you're at in this process and then what? The council asking. 00:01:24
Steve will turn it over to you, then your stuff's in the packet and. 00:01:29
Everybody's reviewed it and we'll let you start walking through so. 00:01:34
Thank you for pulling that up. 00:01:39
And I just give her a slow beat. Yeah, Just kind of yeah. 00:01:41
So thanks again for having me. My name is Steve Holden. I'm the Director of Planning and Boundaries for Grant School Instruction. 00:01:45
I've been in this position on Granite for about 28 years and this position, this is my 11th year. Before that, a teacher and a 00:01:53
coach and administrator. 00:01:57
All throughout the district. I just tell you that tell you that I'm not a. 00:02:02
I'm not a numbers guy. I'm not a demographer. 00:02:06
But I'm glad I have this perspective as we're taking these challenges. So I'll go through these pretty quick week. 00:02:09
And stop if you want me to go back to slides, if you want me to really want to say much anything questions come up so. 00:02:16
So again, this is what we call the Area 5 elementary study. We just have split the district up and the five geographic areas. 00:02:24
There's nothing really sacred about those lines that they give us a pretty good area to focus on. 00:02:30
We have studied really and parts of the other four areas and this is one of the last areas that we have not studied. We did begin 00:02:36
a study about 3 or 4 years ago. 00:02:41
In addition to the when the workflows, but there were some things that were tabled. 00:02:46
So now we're back to this area that the main thing I want you to know is this is an elementary focused spec. 00:02:50
So that if out obtained this or. 00:02:56
Potential closures are focused on elementary. 00:02:59
Could there be secondary closure or not? Closers or changes? They could be, but only as a byproduct of what happens that we are 00:03:02
measuring. 00:03:06
So let me clarify what I just said. We don't anticipate any secondary closures period. 00:03:10
The field pattern changes or potential boundary changes for secondary schools. Maybe that does sometimes happen when we change 00:03:15
things at the elementary level, as I thought about that. 00:03:20
You can see the map and the elementaries involved here. We have Oakwood in there. 00:03:26
It was, it's kind of been involved two or three times over the last several years, but it's kind of been that. 00:03:31
Boundary area and part of the Oakwood boundary you can see in that bottom corner is in fact in this area. But we thought we'd just 00:03:36
go ahead and include it. It would be easier to include it first of all than to try to include it later. So, but we don't 00:03:42
anticipate significant changes there. 00:03:47
These are the schools, the names of the schools, and this paper is very important. The FCI is the facility condition index is the 00:03:55
ranking of simply a ranking of the lower the number, the more health. Quite frankly, that building means no building on there is 00:04:01
unsafe. We don't have. 00:04:06
Students and have safe buildings, but if it's the lower number it means for maintenance and it's closer to a remodel or the bill. 00:04:12
Enrollment from these past years, executing enrollment next year and then approximate capacity. 00:04:21
Always list capacities as approximately because it really varies depending on what you mean by capacity, but those are the best. 00:04:28
So why? Why are we conducting this study? Bottom line, it comes down to enrollments and defining enrollments. 00:04:39
So let's go to a couple of slides here. 203, this is a 20 year snapshot and just 2020 year. 00:04:45
You can see those back to about 68,000 if you go beyond that permit district has been over 70,000. 00:04:51
That's back in the days, maybe relying year round schools and non traditional schedules and real capable classrooms everywhere. 00:04:57
We went a different phase, but now we've gone down to this past year of about 55,000. 00:05:04
55,000 students. Now the next slide is a little scarier. It shows the next five year projection. 00:05:11
This is not just our projection, but this is a demographic company we hire and consult with to. 00:05:18
To look at our data and they've confirmed our data and that is that we in Granite District are expecting to go down. 00:05:25
More unfortunately, approximately 1000 students a year. 00:05:32
Each year in the next five years. 00:05:37
So it's district Y nothing that's. 00:05:39
That consisted at around 45 to 47,000 in 2029. 00:05:43
Next slide. This illustrates really this isn't a Granite District issue. 00:05:52
This, this slide shows you the state. And I just want you to understand this isn't a blip on the screen. We're not closing stores 00:05:57
because we happen to be down for a few years. 00:06:02
This is going to be 10 C Gardener Institute and they have done some great. 00:06:06
Analysis on state and demographics. 00:06:11
And this simply shows that we will continue to decline for the most part or be in some decline. 00:06:13
In for the next 10 years, at least until the next. 00:06:21
We were about 2075 ish. 00:06:25
So this decline in some areas will be worse than others. 00:06:27
The the parts of the state that will grow with Far North and Cache County, Far Slow, South of Washington County and in Utah 00:06:32
County. 00:06:35
Sully County will see some growth, but just simply not with the school age. 00:06:40
Demographics. But what I want to remember here is this both wave young Utah. This is a national, in fact global issue. Quite 00:06:45
frankly, birth rates are down everywhere. 00:06:50
You can do a quick service and you see. 00:06:55
Countries that are closing. 00:06:58
Schools, states, everywhere, birth rate is just simply down and that is the number one driver in these studies. 00:07:01
So here are some of the other factors of the amber phrase #1. 00:07:11
Residential growth. 00:07:15
Or sometimes lack of it. We are a more mature district, if you will. Our district boundaries are just just that. We're on the 00:07:17
older part of the distance. 00:07:21
We have some growth, but not nearly enough to offset birth rate issues, families moving in and out of the district, so mobility. 00:07:25
Increase in charge on private online schools. That's an issue everywhere also. 00:07:35
And I'll just say here I'm being. 00:07:40
And Granite District, we're not afraid of competition. We're fine with competition. In fact, that can be healthy and it can drive 00:07:43
us and push us. As long as we're playing by the same rules. That's that's just fine. But those are realities that we all have 00:07:48
also. And I've talked to my friends in those organizations, in fellow schools, and they have some of the same concerns. They're 00:07:53
they're not seeing the students either because they just aren't there anymore. 00:07:58
Open enrollment. We live in an open enrollment state, so students can choose to go anywhere they want. 00:08:04
I would say you just followed it up in this area. 00:08:09
Real estate crisis. 00:08:14
It's difficult. 00:08:16
It's just far more difficult in some areas more than others. They have younger families who move in to be able to afford to live 00:08:17
here. 00:08:21
With younger children, do we have some? Absolutely, but again, not enough to offset the birth rate concerns. 00:08:24
So the big question is, so why does that matter? Why does declining involvement matter? We've known for a long time the schools 00:08:32
can be too big. 00:08:35
But they can be too small. 00:08:39
That's I could spend the next hour and a half long with all the reasons the couple of slides to tell you why. 00:08:42
Why this that's an issue? Keep in mind that a lot of people there's a misnomer. Larger schools that some people think need larger 00:08:49
classrooms, more students in classroom. Smaller schools, maybe fewer students in the classroom. That's that's simply not true. 00:08:55
Because it's a student teacher ratio. If you have more students, you have more teachers, and vice versa. 00:09:03
But there's there is an economy of scale at play here with schools that that is important. 00:09:08
These are some of those what we consider benefits and consolidation or ways, also things that we get worried about with smaller 00:09:18
schools. 00:09:22
On average in our district with the average size of schools and what we're trying to accomplish is really three teachers per grade 00:09:26
level at the elementary level. 00:09:31
That means around 500 to thousands and 50 students. Again, that can vary a bit, but that's that's a matter. 00:09:35
Of that, three teacher per grade level is a. 00:09:42
A magic number we're trying to get. Again, it's a minimum. 00:09:46
So if we can hit that, that is a lot of exports, it keeps us from having some of these split grade level classrooms. 00:09:49
We see those now. 00:09:55
Fortunately, we will see more and more of those this fall as numbers look like that when I mean split grade level. 2 grades in one 00:09:56
classroom, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 4th and so on. 00:10:01
We have some amazing teachers that get amazing results and we have some amazing families that that provide great support for the 00:10:05
students and we do see successes anywhere. 00:10:10
Yet it is not the ideal. 00:10:16
Educational situation to have more than one grade in the classroom. So no. No. 00:10:19
Parental choice. 00:10:24
Having having the ability to choose more if you have only one teacher in the grade or sometimes 2. 00:10:26
Sometimes you need to make adjustments. You can do that. 00:10:32
There's collaboration issues balancing out class size when you have 3-4 or even sometimes five teachers on the grade level. 00:10:35
Actually, we get to balance out those class sizes. When you have one, that's what you have is 1. 00:10:41
And if you have two, oftentimes you'll see one class high and one class that's low. 00:10:48
For different reasons, and so it's an effort to balance out those class sizes. 00:10:52
If you feel more on all of these things, again that I find the scale is very important. 00:10:58
We're seeing a lot of pizza Blunt going off by granted Indian, apparently. 00:11:03
You know, it's the same parents doing the same things over and over. 00:11:07
And these committees and community councils and PTA's and so on. 00:11:10
And quite frankly, just a more efficient use of administrator to student and teacher ratios. 00:11:14
So we want to get them appropriately sized, a dual language immersion program another programs need. 00:11:20
A little larger school. It's very difficult to have those programs in smaller schools. 00:11:26
And then people asked me, Steve, is this about money or are you closing schools or recommending closures? 00:11:31
For money. 00:11:37
My answer to that is very careful. That is, we don't close to save money. 00:11:39
That we close schools that are robust school. 00:11:43
And better educational opportunities. 00:11:47
But yet in this life is most everything we do unfortunately come back to money in some way. Stuart does. If we have more money 00:11:50
from the state legislature for every district, then we could fund the schools differently. 00:11:55
Or more money for a lot of things. A lot of these things do change. So is it about money? 00:12:01
In that way, sure, you can say that not out of mind. 00:12:07
Sound disingenuous and say it's not about money, but you don't close school to try to save money. We close schools to try to get 00:12:10
them right sized by a better education. 00:12:15
This is the process. 00:12:20
It's almost a count legal process. You can just. 00:12:23
If you take time to look at that starts in February with the I go to the board and make the recommendation for areas of what to 00:12:26
study. 00:12:29
For the next several months, until June and July, we have meetings. We've had a couple of large meetings, many smaller meetings 00:12:33
already with lots of feedback. On meeting at Skyline, we had about 200. 00:12:39
At least people like this. Last week about 350. 00:12:45
And I'll continue to have many meetings. We'll try to narrow this down over the summer and get down to some. 00:12:49
Just refine that a bit and just. 00:12:57
Instead of having 10 schools, obviously we can narrow it down to. 00:12:59
2-3 Dish. 00:13:03
We have more meetings than the fall. 00:13:05
And then a final decision in December with any change we have implemented next fall. So no changes for this next school year. 00:13:07
Any changes would be fall of 26. 00:13:16
Finally wanted to more. 00:13:19
So what are you looking for? What are the factors that are considered in? The thing is you talked about enrollment, that's an 00:13:23
obvious one. 00:13:26
The facility condition can play apart. These are not prioritized, these are not in the order, I can just tell you that. 00:13:29
We've unfortunately closed 10 schools in the last five, almost six years. 00:13:36
Each study is different, and each study of different factors seems to rise to the top, but almost always it's a combination of 00:13:40
these in some way. 00:13:44
Transportation or busing? Walking routes. 00:13:49
There are fiscal considerations, district programs, benefits and consolidation. That was those two slides. There were others, but. 00:13:52
Again, every study. 00:14:00
Discussing what questions do you have and. 00:14:03
Stay as long as you. 00:14:06
Long as I can say arms length away and if not, OK. 00:14:09
Does anybody? 00:14:12
How did the special programs figure out it up? 00:14:23
So DOI, let's take that for example. When you have a program like that, it's almost like running TCPS. 00:14:27
The DOI. 00:14:34
So in a grade, you know, I want to start with two of those grades. 00:14:36
Students in VLA. 00:14:40
If you're too small, that means you have one so-called traditional class in that grade. 00:14:42
So then we're really exacerbating the problem of that issue I was talking about with one teacher at grade level. 00:14:47
We really need, and we've learned this the hard way, everybody on the state cast when the state adopted this opportunity to do DOI 00:14:53
about the 1617 years ago. 00:14:58
We looked at it as a program to attract students from out of the boundaries. In some cases that does somewhat. 00:15:02
But not as much as we thought so. 00:15:10
It just complicates ALC or advanced learning centers or gifted programs or language immersion and others. 00:15:12
We just learned. 00:15:19
Not to start this, but all over the country does. To have a program like that you need more students. 00:15:20
To balance out in those meetings because there's again. 00:15:27
You're almost running two programs, 2 schedules, two types of teachers, different things in the same building, and it's just very, 00:15:31
very difficult to do that. 00:15:36
So are the students part of like the DLF program or the ALC program? Are they included in the population in school or are they 00:15:41
kind of scared? 00:15:45
They are in these cases. I mean, people ask sometimes about the Ames program at Cottonwood. Now that's a different charter, that's 00:15:50
separate means different, all DLI. 00:15:55
ALC program service considered. 00:16:00
How about if you have data that shows? 00:16:05
We're sending to kids that are being plotting. 00:16:07
Out of boundary for his books. 00:16:11
If you go to that QR code or go to our website, at the bottom, very bottom, if you Scroll down, you'll see for every school we 00:16:13
have what we call a pivot table and it will show. 00:16:18
So let's say for Morningside over here, how many students live in that area? And then other students, where do they attend? 00:16:22
And then how many students are attending and where are they coming from? So both sides of that point. 00:16:29
So you can really look at that evaluate and that's part of. 00:16:34
The evaluation process in terms of what schools you decide. 00:16:38
And keep the candy, have you? 00:16:43
Is this just open at this point or do you guys have the target number based off your data that you think? 00:16:46
Or is it just you don't want to say at this point like because how many schools Building Schools are are thinking you need to. 00:16:53
I'll say that as soon somebody will always interpret it. That's OK. 00:17:02
To get to that number that I mentioned up there around 500, that would take 3 school closures if you just add up all the all the 00:17:06
students. 00:17:10
From both Med schools and divide that out say by 7. That gets you closer to 500. 00:17:15
But that really happens, quite frankly, if you just take all of our past studies and do the same thing and divide that space. 00:17:21
It's difficult. That's the goal, but there are other considerations, again, when you look at transportation and walking routes and 00:17:29
and programs and other needs. 00:17:33
It is hard, so sometimes we've had. 00:17:38
Couple years ago we did a study with over 20 schools and I think we had one closure. 00:17:41
Yet we've had a few years ago where we had spring wind, front peaks and no Creek. 00:17:46
And now we had 9, so we post three of the nine. 00:17:52
So everyone is just a little different. 00:17:54
So is there a target with a goal? But. 00:17:57
It's more than different numbers. 00:18:01
Way more than just those numbers. 00:18:03
So that's black. That's one of the things to remember you that came out of the condition. 00:18:05
Is that will that be an element of this? 00:18:12
Sure, that's the reason we missed it. 00:18:16
Umm, the. 00:18:19
What most people do, and I admit early on I did it myself, so when I put that table up and everybody sees that, you're going to 00:18:22
look at two things, you're going to look at a moment and your FCI. 00:18:26
Something that's gonna be doing. 00:18:31
Mm-hmm. Especially before, yeah, really low and so, so Glenberry else there's some people. 00:18:34
Typically, I'll leave that minute and I see this agency. Thank you. 00:18:41
And sometimes it turns out that way, but. 00:18:48
I'll say that. 00:18:52
Again, so last year for instance, Redwood Elementary, in the end of that study there was about flows revenue starting next year. 00:18:53
Redwood had over 500 students, held Reddit and was in the high points at least, maybe closer to 30 on the FCI. 00:19:01
But there were many other factors in that area, so. 00:19:09
So does it matter? Make it sure. And we've had some studies on the other hand, where that was a deciding factor, significant 00:19:11
factor. 00:19:15
So that's why I say it's really hard. You're looking not that it's the best school, but what are the schools around it in that 00:19:19
area? So if you closed one school. 00:19:23
That has a low FCI. 00:19:28
And the other schools around it can. 00:19:32
What are the implications there? 00:19:35
But yes, does it make sense you can look at Hand and Oakwood to bring newer schools. 00:19:37
Great scores. 00:19:43
Umm doesn't make a lot of sense honestly. It's one of those schools. 00:19:44
No, and I'd be shocked if they run a shortlist. 00:19:49
But I would rather and we've just learned to start with everything on the table. 00:19:53
And if somebody has some grand idea that we haven't thought about or the reason that should be closed and another not, then 00:19:57
obviously. 00:20:01
But we want to get those 10. 00:20:05
Hair down. Sticky. 00:20:07
Possible, but then if you're going to North Florida. 00:20:09
It's a little like itself in the past. 00:20:14
Just kind of summarize what the. 00:20:16
Other development processes and performance. 00:20:19
So we really do want feedback as we've gone back to that. 00:20:24
I know data. 00:20:28
We have a lot of the. 00:20:30
You know what we don't always know and understand? Or. 00:20:31
The nuances and needs and concerns, and I think that's a lot of what the public feedback is about. 00:20:35
We learn a lot in this process. 00:20:41
So again, starts in February with me going to board. I've represented Booth called Attack Population Analysis Committee, which is 00:20:43
really most every director of the district. 00:20:48
To death, a lot of these things. 00:20:54
But large meetings that we've had already. I go to community councils at each school. I have a meeting in a couple of weeks with 00:20:57
all community council members of the church show. 00:21:01
And their small groups. 00:21:06
So not many meetings really during the summer it's just the pack meets and then again large meetings and multiple small and medium 00:21:08
sized meetings in the fall. 00:21:12
The inception in October. 00:21:17
What we want to do is people go to the website, if you share this, post it, whatever, I don't care and get them to go to the 00:21:19
website and give us feedback. Steve, have you thought of this? Please consider this. 00:21:24
And there are some Nuggets that we really get often times and. 00:21:29
And I'll say be creative, give some ideas. 00:21:33
But I'm also going to be very honest and say. 00:21:36
You see the numbers like I do and it's very difficult to find a way to not close. 00:21:39
At least. 00:21:45
If you have a way and if we have a way, then. 00:21:46
Please let me hear. 00:21:49
But when I say be creative, I want your ideas, but I'm not trying to skirt the issue of. 00:21:51
Potentially closing stores. 00:21:58
Does that make sense there? 00:22:01
NN is the first reading of also approval by the board, December is the final approval and again the meditation of all. 00:22:02
You've shared a lot of the data that you are used to help make the decision who is the one who's, who are the groups of people 00:22:13
they're skipping that data and determining how much each factor is going to weigh in each. And so that path committee, yeah, so 00:22:20
about on an average maybe 25 or 30 of them in there. 00:22:27
That's a close meeting that we don't want to have board members of that meeting because it's. 00:22:34
As you might understand, it's this strong personalities and they advocate for their areas as they should it. 00:22:39
And then push back on each other to make sure we're remembering all different parts. 00:22:44
This process. 00:22:50
It does not necessarily always have a consensus or unanimous, but enough. We need to take recommendations back to the board 00:22:52
because in the end, of course, this is a board decision. 00:22:57
So it is like administrators so. 00:23:02
Of administrators, the only exceptions we do have a representative from the GE. 00:23:07
Education Association and the region of PTA Chair. 00:23:13
Other than that, these are all educators. 00:23:19
So director of transportation, the curriculum, special education. 00:23:21
Information systems and. 00:23:27
We name it, they're all and sometimes multiple people from the park. 00:23:30
Let me hear. I have that list on our other one, the one that's posted on our website who was on the patch? 00:23:34
Not names, but just the titles of Worcester. 00:23:40
OK, well. 00:23:48
Having gone through this, the last goal. 00:23:51
There's nothing that animates. 00:23:55
Parents more than when you start. 00:24:00
Do the things that affect their kids they haven't really, really done, but I think you guys. 00:24:03
Do a great job under difficult circumstances, but. 00:24:08
You know, we all see the data too, as the data doesn't lie. 00:24:13
So. 00:24:17
Anyway, we appreciate the update and. 00:24:19
Any information you can give us because we will get. 00:24:23
We're already getting, we're already getting some inquiries about other issues that are. 00:24:25
Being generated from this boundary study probably aware of yeah and and as it picks up, we'll start to hear more. So any 00:24:30
information that you can give us would be appreciated and. 00:24:35
And again, I'm glad to come out to many meetings, formal or informal, try to answer questions, clarify things. 00:24:41
Against that part of the process. 00:24:49
Yeah, we may want to consider. I don't know if we are. 00:24:51
Having something in the journal the next, you know, until this thing is voted on with the QR codes and. 00:24:55
So residents are aware of it to keep up with the process. 00:25:02
That would be virtually. 00:25:06
Well, thanks so much. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you for your time. 00:25:08
All right. Thank you. OK, We're going to invite the stataphors up for well. 00:25:11
They just made it more laundry more more Italian. 00:25:28
Well, thanks for coming and thank you guys for coming. 00:25:34
Wait. 00:25:39
I know your teacher. Throw them out of the room already. 00:25:43
Involved every year building has more a works rather than to know. 00:26:00
It wasn't a record 5. 00:26:07
82 though this year, 7 veto. 00:26:09
And it was a lot for a lot of bills, especially at the very beginning. 00:26:13
A lot of different things just obviously will use. 00:26:17
Law enforcement by fire, wildfire, so you can browse under the interface. So kind of a handful of issues. We won't touch time. I 00:26:20
want to see things on hand, so still getting the next one. 00:26:27
They don't know Whistler. 00:26:35
Still do either. 00:26:37
Result here, you know, we had our bill list we can follow. A lot of them were big general, general city government issues were 00:26:40
more specific to holidays, but a lot of our legislators find it helpful to just know that there's any big issues. 00:26:46
And you know where where the city is, so we made sure to always contact you the same thing. 00:26:53
Exception. We'll start with a handful of. 00:26:59
A couple of handful of housing bills. 00:27:09
A lot, and they're coming out of most of them are not coming out. 00:27:20
And one of the bills got reductive. 00:27:25
The economic opportunity. 00:27:27
Economic opportunity conditions and then the housing commissioners, that part of that that that larger economic opportunity 00:27:32
Commission no longer exists, but the housing Commission will continue. 00:27:37
So a few of these bills each be 37 housing amendments from the gym, done again. 00:27:43
There are a couple things as well with 1 and I want to play right there. Is that part of a new menu option for the moderate income 00:27:49
housing plan? 00:27:53
Is a density overlay and so we give it to 10 family homes or you can do it for multifamily, single family I think it's 6 acres per 00:27:57
unit and multifamily I think it's. 00:28:02
20 umm. 00:28:07
20 or 20? So seriously. 00:28:08
Mesh, Hewlett-Packard, so you can give a density bonus. The nice thing here, so I should implement this. You can then acquire, if 00:28:10
you put instructions on it, you can say, OK, yes, I'll give you more units per acre. 00:28:17
We have had affordability or you have kept home at home. 00:28:23
Right, because there was a lot of times where I talk to someone and. 00:28:26
Please only increase density for the next million dollar comes before. 00:28:30
And so this then gives us a piece of tool if you would like that tool to then say, OK, 25% of them. 00:28:34
Be affordable and you sleep. 00:28:41
Have right now, but I think it's. 00:28:43
60% owner occupied and 25% restricted. Price wisely. Difficult. 00:28:46
So those are some of the helpful pieces that gives cities and other tools instead of being restricted. 00:28:52
They're permissive. 00:28:57
The other piece of that pill is the statewide housing plan. 00:28:59
And the governor put this out of his budget in the beginning of the year. 00:29:04
And then Seaboard is in the governor's office, is going to follow through a GOP governor's office of, of planning budget. 00:29:10
The good part about this is not just the state saying what we all want to do, There's there's stakeholder, required stakeholder. 00:29:18
An input so. 00:29:25
So it's going to be a process. 00:29:29
Which is mostly about the week, but I mean definitely. 00:29:32
These BT 56 municipal county zoning amendments panel. 00:29:36
Clara area in Washington County. 00:29:42
Many of you are familiar with a couple years ago and not well still right of short term rentals, which basically said you can't 00:29:44
use the listing as a piece of evidence for enforcing your. 00:29:50
The ordinance rentals. 00:29:56
This clearly states that yes, you can use the listing. 00:29:58
If you have other efforts. 00:30:01
So you can use that to find your. 00:30:02
Enforcement, it also allows you can't pull things off the website, but it gives a process for cities to say, hey, I think that you 00:30:05
can go through to whether it's Bribo or Airbnb. So hey, I think that's the most thing is legally to Google and you can kind of 00:30:11
start that process. You can also use that. 00:30:17
This one next collection make sure the tax collection is happening. 00:30:24
You can also. 00:30:28
The only thing you have to do is have an orbits right? So if you want to use some of these tools, you just. 00:30:30
So definitely a lot of work when it's not a very good healthy build and. 00:30:37
Takes it back toward a little bit more exciting control. 00:30:42
You have something that you have a job and you're looking to get a look at the same. 00:30:45
Bill. 00:30:54
SB181. Housing Authority amendments. 00:31:01
Slither from your phone or. 00:31:04
SD 181. 00:31:08
Traveling for ability amendments and this is 1. I think like there so many of these went through like so many different 00:31:10
iterations. You had to go through the file, see what ended up where, how good or bad it was. 00:31:14
But one thing I think. 00:31:20
The important is restricted municipality for parking requirements for one $2.00 units. 00:31:22
So you can't restrict a parking unit or a parking stall if it's unobstructed, enclosed, or covered. 00:31:27
To require it to be larger than 10 by 20. 00:31:34
For uncovered parking to be larger than 9, wide by 20. 00:31:38
The type of spirits can own parking spaces. 00:31:42
Also, a new study cannot require a garage for a single family dwelling that is owner occupied and affordable, which is 80%. 00:31:45
Development comes in and see the situation Europe. 00:31:53
For sale to check your wire to parking the grass. 00:31:57
That affect us at all. 00:32:02
Just slightly. We'll have to make a slight adjustment. 00:32:05
Destiny 260-2000. Affordability. 00:32:12
They all just have like the same name this SB 262 some of the film or again. 00:32:15
Um, he's been there. That allows the legislative body of certain medication for his scientific accruing. 00:32:23
It will get you all in this whole conversation that is city Summit County. 00:32:27
Grants are sitting in a very owner. 00:32:32
And wasn't happy with this language. And so the last language between 37 and they tried to slip in another substitute basically, 00:32:35
which would have restricted the city's ability to enforce the historic district named after 1990, right. So that was like the very 00:32:42
dramatic last night of the session, you know, logging via texting. And we could use a lot of legislators outside a few 00:32:48
legislators, but that did not get. 00:32:55
We have more stories like that. 00:33:03
So there's there's that in here this. 00:33:09
The one thing that I wanted to point out is it allows for. 00:33:12
A world which increases the sub market share appreciation alone program you have to Utah housing corporation and then it allows 00:33:16
for rulemaking process to allow for programs to assist developers and teens in certain liability insurance. 00:33:23
We're confident in development. 00:33:30
Right. It's an effort to try to help incentivize and provide greater coverage for developers that build owner occupied products 00:33:32
instead of for rent. 00:33:38
And you're trying to find ways. 00:33:43
'Cause there's so many barriers to building for sale. 00:33:45
Multifamily. This is one of the tools they're trying to create and testifies that. 00:33:49
Umm, wildlife smoothie, Big Bill, definitely going to the next holiday, and I think it's going to be an iterative process. I think 00:33:55
you're going to see this as a handphone here. 00:34:01
You were part of the USA board meeting and we kind of reviewed this. So at least we have 40 neighborhoods that are wildland urban 00:34:07
interface modifications. 00:34:13
Requires. 00:34:18
So the county is going to end this on the county level. 00:34:20
That's going to coordinate also with forestry, fire and state lands. 00:34:23
And they're going to create a forestry fire in state plans is going to they have a current mapping system called VRAP. 00:34:27
That starts to turn based on usual data. 00:34:34
Where the high risk areas are and and they're going to determine these boundaries of high risk. 00:34:37
And there's going to be pretty often. 00:34:43
Most thing you know, highest risk down to the lowest risk. 00:34:47
Within this boundary. 00:34:51
So that if you have coordination with the county, the county is then maybe going to coordinate with local fire departments. It's 00:34:53
really, really just broad strokes at this point. There's going to be a whole process where. 00:34:59
Your property, if you are within this this area, you're going to be assessed a fee and the average fee is about $40. 00:35:05
And then annually $50 fee and but it's going to depend on size and all those things that's that the average number. 00:35:12
I'm going to create a program, so there's going to be an assessment on your project to say, OK, hey, if you go through and you cut 00:35:21
things back or you do XY and Z, you will limit your fire hazards. 00:35:25
And hopefully this will be something that will help the homeowner, and then you're going to take responsibility to do those 00:35:30
things. 00:35:33
But this will hopefully help with with homeowner insurance. 00:35:35
The insurance companies on their side, there's a lot of interactions on what they're going to do. They can use other data, but 00:35:39
they have to also start using these boundaries and they have to start using Utah centric data instead of, you know, amortized data 00:35:44
nationwide. So it's going to assess the risk. 00:35:50
They they can still drop you, they can't still increase your rates, but there has to be a finding effect. 00:35:56
And so now there's a little bit more restrictions and parameters within the insurance insurance. 00:36:02
So how this assessment program is going to work is largely going to be rule. It doesn't go into effect until January 6. 00:36:08
And then I think we're going to see more processes. 00:36:20
Of how this kind of unfolds, I think this can be a very busy note. 00:36:24
For holiday. 00:36:28
The other thing to do is you have to adopt it. Avoid POST. 00:36:30
Part of that through where we were discussing is, you know, is it only with Matt boundary that yes, that makes sense, right. 00:36:38
So there's a lot of work to be. 00:36:45
Then what we call that building code. So why lever interface building? So it's going to have to be adopted. Every city has to 00:36:48
adopt and or you lose out on certain radiation. 00:36:53
This comedy forestry fires Jimmy Barnes and benical team You know which Ashley has a great relationship. We both did, but Ash has 00:36:59
a great relation to G. 00:37:05
You know, sometimes you go through this rulemaking process if there are certain things that we need here in all of them, you know, 00:37:12
let's let's discuss those. 00:37:16
Let's put together what we need and let's have a meeting with Jim, and I would recommend that. 00:37:20
You know, and working with UFA and work really closely. So there's a good relationship there and there's a relationship with 00:37:26
personal side or two. 00:37:30
You know one of the nice things about UFA is because it's such a great fire department. Yes, it benefits USA like being up there 00:37:37
as part of this legislative process, but it also. 00:37:41
Fire agency because they are so well, but it's not very knowledgeable. 00:37:46
And so involved so I mean I would say this is from the phone whenever I think that she was calling the account because accounting 00:37:50
is going through line and it's going to come from horse during fire, but the county is going to be the one that overseas that. 00:37:55
So a lot of a lot of work is done and the county Catholic cancer. 00:38:02
Some of the things I'm curious about, those still unknown. 00:38:08
What Ufas role would be? Do they get a chunk of this $50 fee in order to go out and assess properties? 00:38:12
Or is this? 00:38:19
The first fee to fund the formation of a program that charges you a fee. 00:38:21
Where does at what point does rubber hit the road? And by Newman, who pays the cost of that? 00:38:27
Rubber hitting rubber. 00:38:33
So it's a simple form, is just. 00:38:39
Nunosafonich. 00:38:50
Forest and fire and satellite. 00:38:52
Sneaked a bit then is that who is? 00:38:55
Doing the overland there, they're saying this property is endangered, this property is not and we already have a pretty robust 00:39:00
program and these. 00:39:05
IP but what they're they've got to continue to modify it so it's updated almost instantly right because if you have a high risk. 00:39:10
Property and then you do you know you do the sensible space or you do you know XY and Z to lower that risk. It should then show 00:39:20
up. 00:39:23
And that is the goal, right? So I think that's why it's kind of like this is going to be something. 00:39:28
Process or not, right? It's not going to all of a sudden. 00:39:32
The program is done and ready to go. It's going to be. 00:39:36
There are there are also problems. 00:39:40
That's, you know, that that's where the ultimate decision to be made. 00:39:46
I think we'll see more legislation on this next January question about that. 00:39:50
But I do think that because this. 00:39:54
This this bill. 00:39:56
COVID X holiday and no, probably more in Salt Lake. Probably more than a lot of other cities. Maybe Sandy and grapes. 00:39:58
You know, this is something I think we can declare. You know, we need to keep a lot of thought deliver during the other one. We 00:40:06
need to make sure that we can apply the rule making process. 00:40:10
You know if Gina Mayor. 00:40:15
When, when you see when the time comes, is that something that we certainly can do that? 00:40:17
And I think this is something that I think we learned will be important. You know, it's not it's not, it's not the same with 00:40:25
school closures. 00:40:28
But it does affect people in the city spammatically. 00:40:32
And I think that's something I think we need to keep our handle. 00:40:36
And potentially, you know, hearing local hearing self educated residents. 00:40:39
As to what this impact is. 00:40:45
Going to take our communication. 00:40:49
Say anything what what Utah's trying to look like. 00:40:52
Working very, very rough and foreign rollout and basically insurance company it didn't work with the insurance company. That's a 00:40:54
great work for to ensure anybody about. 00:41:00
And they had to pull back the Edward Chuckle map, right? And So what this process that they started to do is try to work with the 00:41:06
insurance companies. 00:41:10
To find that right by voice. 00:41:14
Let's be honest, they weren't happy. 00:41:15
Criminal Minds that the idea is. 00:41:21
Very different. 00:41:23
Probably specific. 00:41:24
Like kind of compel the insurance companies to provide some proper coverage or I. 00:41:26
Coming from, you know, 10 years. 00:41:33
It was my assessment. 00:41:36
Isaac So I medicated that body too. 00:41:38
And so you then, you know, that should be something to use, right? To go back and say I have done all of these things to help 00:41:41
reduce the risk. 00:41:45
Violence. 00:41:49
From your neighborhood? Yeah, your neighbor. 00:41:53
Your neighbor. That information is out. 00:41:55
Communicated properly. 00:41:59
I think that that will help. Every year we have to renew our, our, our fire insurance, you know, get the rates. 00:42:00
Going up all the time. 00:42:09
So it's just something that I think you let me know the more you just make sure we communicate, get with Jay and the kid. 00:42:13
We get a set. 00:42:23
Couple of those days last time. 00:42:25
Thank you. 00:42:30
He's been 198 and again, a lot of these bills started out terrible and ended up blessed here. 00:42:33
HP 198 highway expansion and stuff that was about Peterson. So the final one allows builders to be relocated through the 00:42:41
construction within one mile on. 00:42:47
Highway within the same municipality, unless there is another mutually agree upon them. 00:42:54
It must be within wait. 00:42:59
So I think it's within one mile. 00:43:01
Always an investment state in a an industrial court. 00:43:04
No, the one mile restriction is gone. 00:43:08
In the final version. 00:43:11
Yeah, I think so. I think it's gone and I think what it says and it has to be within the same community. 00:43:13
But there's like a four mile restriction now. This is only Interstate building. 00:43:19
Yeah, OK. 00:43:23
Yeah, OK. 00:43:27
They have to. the Billboard company has to make their deal. 00:43:37
That strike release. But if they do. 00:43:40
Cities required to permit the relocation within very broad distance now because it's a new proper. 00:43:42
Yeah, and. 00:43:51
Ashley, I got a solid. 00:43:53
845 from county said this is a language. Are you OK? 00:43:57
So that's the last thing I heard and it didn't track that. 00:44:02
Don't work, company has to do their meal. 00:44:07
If they can't. 00:44:13
They can't break it. 00:44:14
The there is a little. 00:44:16
Scary part of that. Thankfully not for holiday. 00:44:18
But it pushes relocation more clearly onto the local government. 00:44:21
Tennis local government somehow prohibits relocation. Then there's a worry the local government pays the tab. 00:44:27
For condemning the site, right? So we're really grateful on holiday that this is only Interstate Interstate, right? I think every 00:44:34
city is is, is grateful itself here. North Salt Lake is not very great. 00:44:40
But but yeah, sometimes art is grateful. Is the 215 belt loop Interstate? 00:44:48
Yeah, 250. So what we have right about there all on this team. 00:44:55
It's just I think on line 156. But when you say municipal, you're uncluttering. I'm using. 00:45:00
Same property, adjacent property, I understand the same highway, a new location. 00:45:07
Previous location. 00:45:14
Or or another booking. 00:45:16
This is one of like seconds when we're going to come out and make it like 7 different options and they push through one right? 00:45:18
Like double, double check. But I think it's with the not one mile. 00:45:23
Yeah. But please double check this, yeah. 00:45:28
But you can't. 00:45:34
BE 355 critical infrastructure material amendments. 00:45:40
This largely does not priorities. 00:45:46
Right. I mean, because the way that it's. 00:45:49
It is not great. I think the way I heard it was only a handful of this. 00:45:52
If you are. 00:45:57
Grass graphite operators. The ability to expand antiguous land to operate that the operator owes consults before May 1725. 00:45:59
Operator must give notice the city prior to the expansion. The city makes a finding of endangerment of health or safety. The city 00:46:11
may impose mitigation standards. 00:46:14
So, you know, the only reason I bring up yes is in fact Carly's, but I just think it's all of these changes and we're going to 00:46:19
keep on making him. And if there's always that threat of potential ground, that's right, you said kind of follow, but. 00:46:24
Again, terrible bill that ended up less terrible. 00:46:30
Elections continue in that fashion. 00:46:35
1833 hundred and then next election month, Jackson versus. 00:46:38
Burden so the final the final burden of this deal we're leading a good start to really strict you know and ballot strike the. 00:46:43
Which I think we had the most always in the combination. This really starts to restrict it. 00:46:53
It does push it out, so it requires an extra third voter. So right the last four digits of their Utah driver's license, their 00:46:59
state identification card or Social Security number on the return envelope of their mailing ballot. 00:47:04
Or you can vote in person. 00:47:10
It allows for a signature in comparison in lieu of identifying numbers as well 2029. 00:47:11
So after 2029 you can only have that identification numbers. Up until then you can also you can go either out of the signature or 00:47:18
those 4 numbers. 00:47:22
And then starting in 2029 hundred, let's opt in. 00:47:26
To buy now. 00:47:30
And then you have to do whatever eight years. 00:47:31
So it's going to be an education, right, Like we have to educate our our books of video requirements because there are just. 00:47:33
It it simplified from where it started, but it's not. 00:47:41
David, I'll talk about two bills that come, both that didn't pass. I just want to put on your radar. 00:47:48
Horrible, terrible building. While you're going to see again this year, this was SB3337 Land use development amendments, the BHAB 00:47:56
Development Agency balance. 00:48:00
Just one of original bill would have created they're allowed for you with the subdivision controlled by Goyos State. 00:48:05
To come in and do a. 00:48:13
Internet development where everybody. 00:48:14
Safe with no initial bills, no book. 00:48:16
They could do up to three of these years. 00:48:20
They were talking about nuclear energy, space ports, large scale development, so it wouldn't be necessarily a holiday issue, but 00:48:24
basically a lot of states. 00:48:28
It died a very visible and fork death because it wasn't local government motion that was injured, it was actually all spectrums of 00:48:35
the political spectrums that were. 00:48:40
Far right. Far left. 00:48:46
But I think you don't see it still. 00:48:49
Again, and if they do do it, I really wanted to see what the logo something. 00:48:51
I want to mention HB 22.5 schools I was reading about. That's Carol Ross. 00:49:01
This is a bill that she foiled on. 00:49:07
It allows for the current statute. 00:49:11
Allows for an individual that season 4 though stay compensatory service. 00:49:15
And it was becoming an issue because there were so many folks who come and and follow the crossing guard. Is that the capacity 00:49:21
service? 00:49:25
There's so many times these folks weren't happy about being there. They were angry separate police officer there to watch the 00:49:30
individual that compensatory service with the crossing guards that doesn't it's a lot of duplication efforts, right. So this bill 00:49:36
got a little bit of rocky start. We ended up modifying basically saying I think it was like originally it was increasingly. 00:49:43
The speed and right, but then finally you work with the police resource that you said, hey, we've had some other cities too that 00:49:51
have the same issue. So it was just from a shower to ma. So basically a judge could. 00:49:56
Acquire the Customer Service LLC. 00:50:02
It ran outside. I think we could get it through. I think we just have to start with a little earlier, get a little bit more 00:50:05
education on what what it is because a lot of people thought that this was putting in the requirement and instead of. 00:50:10
You know, lessening that. 00:50:16
Is when you have these folks doing. 00:50:20
Just didn't particularly give a blessed things by the ones. 00:50:39
The other one from the Council on License for Computers. 00:50:54
There was a bill ran out of time. It was a lot of work done. It came out late. The number 468 representative, freshman 00:50:59
legislators, MDA. 00:51:03
We did a lot of work with volleyball and. 00:51:08
Totally comprehensively. 00:51:11
Before the bill came out on that side was over so late. 00:51:13
And and what the bill does is it does allow for a large leaking that there are some more restrictions. You could get rid of the 00:51:16
data sooner. I think it changes the retention that you have in 90 days. 00:51:20
And then it really starts to ask for a lot of data on how license platelets were used. 00:51:25
You know where they're looking at, how they're looking at these bills and then go back in and. 00:51:30
Price fee. 00:51:38
With safety, right, because these, these tools are extremely helpful, whether it's an antler alert, whether it's a missing person, 00:51:39
they're they're very well utilized and, and a lot of different companies like to use them. 00:51:44
But then this is what start you and make sure that there's not right. 00:51:49
For protection and privacy. So we was really fantastic to work with. 00:51:53
We'll do it again. We'll probably do it during the energy. 00:51:59
Is the built device diagonal cargo? 00:52:05
You know the. 00:52:08
News of lessons that read is a very unique one. 00:52:09
You don't want to come. 00:52:12
What was the status of that that didn't? 00:52:18
And it got to the place where it's like the very last couple days, it's, you know, whose priorities and which the priorities and 00:52:23
each bodies priority. And this year I have a lot of banks between the two bodies. And so there were a lot of fighting. I've never 00:52:29
seen so many conference committee. It's kind of interest. I mean, that's where I got my joy right. Was watching strange and you 00:52:35
know. 00:52:40
Umm, but there was there. So it does get lost in the very end. So I don't think there's an issue with that. There was. 00:52:48
No doing that. 00:52:55
So does that mean that right now? 00:53:01
License plated of the Wild West. There are no There are no license plate no. 00:53:04
To. 00:53:11
So I got 250 Dan McCain in 2023. 00:53:13
That bill largely out was like that. That largely outlines kind of what the current policy is for. 00:53:18
One thing that Chris Brown well state privacy. 00:53:26
He's going to work with DPS. I think there's like a model contract, right? Like a model that local governments can use if they 00:53:31
would like to start using these LPR. So you have some of those those so that good balance of, you know, you can use that for that 00:53:36
you can't. 00:53:40
Because what you want to do is you want to make sure that if you're there are two major companies that you that you could you go 00:53:46
under a contract with the last five years. 00:53:50
We want to make sure the data is yours, not theirs. 00:53:54
Because if it's dense and. 00:53:58
Right now, yeah, right now there's there's regulations that are going with message, right. 00:54:01
Of license, but you're much pretty data because personal use not so much so that that's the that's the relevance that's protected 00:54:05
in us so. 00:54:09
A lot of work. 00:54:14
Historically. 00:54:20
Transportation bills where? 00:54:27
Part of the. 00:54:30
The quarter in Salt Lake County would be would be used to fund certain projects. 00:54:32
And those in those cities that have leadership. 00:54:37
Majority leadership tends to get the money. 00:54:41
And so before the session we talked about. 00:54:44
You know, keeping an eye out for that and making sure you know, if that was going to be opened up and we'll be fine, make sure we 00:54:46
have. 00:54:51
Talk to Harper, said Harper Chip. And he does, and he said he doesn't think there was going to be anything they should we 00:54:56
confirmed to that. 00:54:59
Hospital final 2 was number and February 15. 00:55:03
And when that bill was done, looked at it, but actually, what did the House Investigation committee, what was discussed? 00:55:09
And that bill, it was, it was Jordan. It was Jordan Kusher. 00:55:17
With providing $1 million to South Jordan for a role. 00:55:21
And I thought, OK, you know, it's not opening it up. It's special legislation. We'll see what happens to it. 00:55:25
Bill passes the House. 00:55:30
On February 25th. 00:55:32
On March 4th. 00:55:36
The bill is sub to the second sub and still there are no bells and whistles that are leaning on this issue. 00:55:38
And then and then around dinner time, I think like this before or after dinner. 00:55:46
The Senate passed the 6th from 7th up to 6th. 00:55:50
And in that 6th sub, the last night of the section, no committee hearings yet. Made the following changes in that bill. 00:55:56
It provided funding to the county of the First Class Infrastructure Fund Bank. 00:56:07
Totally new concept. 00:56:13
It it Salt Lake County before I let you back up, Salt Lake County can enact the 5th of the 5th. 00:56:16
That's an extra .2%. 00:56:24
Or the sales tax. 00:56:26
And supposedly, Salt Lake County is going to do that. 00:56:28
By July of this year. 00:56:31
But it takes effect, it starts, you start to pay it as as taxpayers going on. 00:56:34
.05 of that that 2/10 will go to the cities. 00:56:41
On a you know to do transportation. 00:56:47
.05% goes to Salt Lake County for transportation or public safety. 00:56:50
Last 110th. 00:56:57
.09 goes into the new county of the First Class Infrastructure Bank Fund. 00:56:59
And oh .01% goes to fund the express bus route on 5600 W. 00:57:05
The .09% is available as the public infrastructure projects. 00:57:14
Loans low. Low as a glance. 00:57:20
And Salt Lake County, the first chunk of money that was that was determined and put in the bill. 00:57:23
Last time the session. 00:57:30
Draper, Herriman. 00:57:32
The Metropolitan Water District of Salt Lake and Sandy. 00:57:34
Grateful West on another kind of blocked up. 00:57:37
Infrastructure projects. 00:57:40
Still, we're going to be something that I think we ought to discuss. Yes, the Legislature inappropriate. 00:57:43
But there really ought to be. 00:57:52
I'm looking at your dad and see that conversation. We really ought to be a lot of discussion at the conference of maintenance and 00:57:53
develop a. 00:57:57
It's a process to take a look at what the infrastructure needs are in the county because our taxpayers agreement. 00:58:01
And make sure that there's a process. 00:58:09
So that. 00:58:12
Should be. 00:58:19
That's not something you know. 00:58:22
I'm sure some of these projects are very very bad, but there are other projects. 00:58:24
Also that night in this draft that hadn't been seen before. 00:58:29
3.7 on the quarter, The quarter of transportation running went to West Valley. 00:58:34
The South Florida Project, Historic Title 2. 00:58:40
Magna Taylorville, West Jordan. 00:58:43
So there was by the electrical transportation. 00:58:46
Now the part of the infrastructure money. 00:58:51
Authorizes you not Is that $70 million in general obligation transportation dollars for an affordable grant? Affordable housing 00:58:56
grant programs, public health. 00:59:01
Now we might be able to benefit from this. 00:59:06
Because you know, when we're talking about our affordable housing that we have people involved, there's a delta. 00:59:09
And so depending on depending on how gooey develops all the rules. 00:59:14
It has it has to be a project of more than 50 affordable housing units. 00:59:20
And you can get a $20,000 grant funding in order to the recipient. 00:59:24
The infrastructure to afford, at least for housing, is if you have 50. 00:59:28
And you can do 20,000 * 50 for your for the help of big infrastructure. 00:59:35
You know, I think we have to do. 00:59:40
100 or 200 can't remember 100 so that would allow us out kind of trying to get some of this infrastructure affordable housing 00:59:42
money, you know to help to help close that delta on how we have to be affordable housing. So not all is lost on this or bad on 00:59:48
this. The problem is. 00:59:54
Is when, not when you when you use local government funding. 01:00:01
Which is what this is. 01:00:05
And you'll have a legislate to make the determination, which is what they do. 01:00:06
We play by their rules and not by our rules. 01:00:11
And I think there ought to be discussions, if not the mayor's, about how to. 01:00:14
Better develop a process to play by rules in Salt Lake County, not legislators. 01:00:18
But that was how political tips. 01:00:24
I said that the third that goes to the series is can we make our own time? Yes. What are the what are the restrictions? 01:00:27
That's the only restriction right now. That's all. That's all I'm aware of. 01:00:37
But we need people need to get. 01:00:41
Go through more information. 01:00:44
And 50 right out. 01:00:46
So some numbers were distributed. It looks like it's just slightly over $300,000. 01:00:50
.05 It's not a lot. 01:00:58
But you know, it's like. 01:01:03
That in addition to the 300,000, that's part of that required. So this is an additional, yeah. 01:01:05
Well, I think this we've got to get ourselves educated on this stuff in terms of what it is. 01:01:13
How much it is to expect? The problem with this is just the. 01:01:19
The secrecy involved in. 01:01:25
That the money is out there and how can you? How can you apply for it or get it? 01:01:28
And the politics involved with other ones that already talked to me about it. 01:01:34
Let me agree. It's it's. 01:01:40
Our 11th hour seems just like that of a staple. 01:01:43
Oh, you know. 01:01:47
And that's what you really have to watch the end because watch the movie like 3 different steps, right? And then I'll determine 01:01:59
what's going on. So you'd be up to a child. It's just, it's funny hours, right? Like the last few days. Is that where the funny 01:02:05
stuff happens? And you know, you know, we just you were participating on the housing bill with the on the historic, historic 01:02:11
landlord, Mr. Principal, everybody. 01:02:18
There was another bill. 01:02:24
On law enforcement. On law enforcement. 01:02:27
You know that would you know as as chief basketballs, you know if there's going to be a. 01:02:29
Is going to be a termination of suspension or three days or more. 01:02:36
You make the determination, then the officer gets here because they give their deposit, correct? 01:02:43
This other language that they wanted to put into the bill. 01:02:54
Would have allowed. Would have required a hearing before. 01:02:57
The individual, the officer was just. 01:03:02
So as a hearing, the discipline that another hearing. 01:03:06
You know, and so talk about convolution. 01:03:10
And that was because. 01:03:14
The individual who passed the bill on the. 01:03:16
267 on a low cost of bargaining kind of the twins of guilt when FOP told them that they would want to talk in 2027 annual 01:03:21
convention. 01:03:26
And they wanted to put that language into it. Modify FOP. 01:03:31
And they didn't care about the cities or about. 01:03:35
26 or about 5 employees or about any other public safety employee that wouldn't wouldn't have to they just wanted to deal with. 01:03:38
Keeping that Republican judgment. So yes. So yes, a lot of things that have happened on the latter time. 01:03:47
And it keeps it all bad enough like this, yeah. 01:03:55
Well, I think on some of the, you know, some of it, it just. 01:03:59
No, no. I thought we talked about it early and then. 01:04:04
Want to be almost It's like we know there's money out there. We want we want you to know that we know. 01:04:08
And we want to. 01:04:15
Have our handout for some of that money. That's almost how it comes across on the quarter to quarter piece and I don't want to 01:04:17
look, I don't want to. 01:04:21
You know, the thing that frustrates me about it is we made a big effort 678 years ago to move back to the county in terms of the 01:04:26
quarter and quarter and have there be a transparent process. 01:04:31
You know, all of a sudden it's back at the state again. 01:04:36
It's back to the same open. It's literally. 01:04:40
Feelings in backgrounds. 01:04:43
And anyway, well, we've got some meetings with a couple of the new County Council representatives. I'm going to bring it up again. 01:04:47
I don't think it'll do any good because. 01:04:50
It's a legislature wants it there. They want to use that not only in the excellent lever, but. 01:04:55
Last conversation. 01:05:05
Yeah. 01:05:18
Yes, he called us last year. 01:05:27
Yeah, yeah. 01:05:33
If she accepts in Philadelphia was the Senate sponsor of the. 01:05:36
I'm supposed to. We're supposed to say, oh, thank you so much for giving us some more money. 01:05:43
Difficult. 01:05:49
That's right. 01:05:50
So. 01:05:58
Wow, like I'm saying. 01:05:59
Like any of the other really good stories. 01:06:05
Well, thank you very much. Appreciate. 01:06:10
It made sure that we were on top of the things that were. 01:06:15
Let's follow up. 01:06:25
And then we'll start all over again, 8787. 01:06:28
Is there an e-mail? 01:06:36
Put together the schedule for Wednesday of every month except for July. 01:06:39
Don't go this all the potential issues. 01:06:49
And it's over that in 10 days. 01:06:52
And then the first thing was going to be language. 01:06:56
All right. Thanks, I'll. Thanks everybody. 01:07:01
And if I need them right here to keep going? 01:07:06
Tucker Patrol. 01:07:10
Irene Murrah, I think my my husband on agenda. 01:07:12
OK, so get me excited too early here. Hey, we like this stuff. This is the we do. I'm glad you think it's fun. 01:07:17
Tonight so. 01:07:27
But thank you all for giving us some time for this year sentences. 01:07:29
So let us know, remember. 01:07:33
What's helpful with us, because there's a lot of data here. There is a lot of data, yes. And so it's always helpful for us to 01:07:35
know. 01:07:39
If there is a message in that data that I think we should be focused on. 01:07:43
Happy to highlight those things. 01:07:50
I guess as a quick intro lower almost to the forwarding 3. 01:07:53
So let's just dive right in here and we'll talk methodology when I get to the slide that makes everyone's eyes place over. 01:08:01
But the key findings the fun stuff first. 01:08:07
Overall, we have a really positive health visiting metrics continuing in the holiday. 01:08:10
Residence feels that the city is largely headed in the right direction and their quality of life rating is 82 out of 100 this 01:08:16
year. That's. 01:08:20
About on track with what we've seen in prior years and. 01:08:25
I without. 01:08:28
Naming names, You are statistically tied as the highest rated quality of flexibility that we work for. 01:08:30
Stuff. Congratulations. Please tell us you only handle 2 cities. 01:08:37
So despite presidents ongoing concerns about girls and traffic, they're not closing the door behind them. They're not saying. 01:08:48
No, stay out of holiday. We don't want anyone else to move here, at least exactly if we're talking about friends. 01:09:01
It would be great to have the neighbors related to them in the back here. 01:09:08
Any single family housing specifically just. 01:09:12
Like. 01:09:17
The things that pop out are the small town charm that holiday has. 01:09:29
It's natural beauty and then there are a lot, there's a lot of focus on community generally. 01:09:34
The people really make the. 01:09:39
And the sense of safety that residents have their stands out as well. 01:09:41
Again, thinking about issues in the city now and looking towards the future, residents are most concerned about growth in traffic 01:09:45
and surrounding issues. 01:09:49
About 2/3 of residents say that they're receiving an excellent or good service value for their tax dollar this year. 01:09:55
Our highest rated city services. 01:10:02
That are managed in house and through our contact services. So just in the aggregate here include community events, garbage 01:10:05
collection and fire emergency. 01:10:10
Medical services so read just the stick with what we've seen in the past there as well. 01:10:15
When we asked residents where they might allocate their hypothetical $100 budget for potential service improvements. 01:10:20
The highest average allocation goes to surface maintenance of streets and roads, and there are some. 01:10:28
Consistent themes that pop out in this year's survey about residents. Ongoing or increased concern with Rd. maintenance or 01:10:34
service. Maintenance, definitely. 01:10:39
We have a large majority of residents who do not currently use public transportation and most of them are not particularly 01:10:46
interested in using public transportation. 01:10:51
Even when we give them an opportunity to say, hey, what can we change to make this more appealing to you? 01:10:56
There is a large share of those residents who. 01:11:01
A little bit intractable. 01:11:05
When we look at those priorities among residents who might be movable. 01:11:07
On the issue and no pun intended. 01:11:12
We find that the things that they're most interested in are increased bus routes and sort of more. 01:11:15
Accessible routes to some key destinations. 01:11:21
And then just improvements to bus stops, making those transition periods or waiting periods a little bit more. 01:11:25
And when we look at some specific city initiatives. 01:11:33
We have about 8 out of 10 residents who say that sustainability is an important goal for the city to continue to pursue. 01:11:36
They believe that preserving and growing trees in the city and water conservation should be the city's highest priority. 01:11:43
So definitely a lot of focus on the tree canopy and maintaining some of that aesthetic that that holiday has fairly. 01:11:49
So survey methodology here. We went back out to a new random sample of residents this year. It's been a few years since we reached 01:11:59
out, so this was. 01:12:03
A panel refresher. In total, we have 800 residents complete the survey. 01:12:07
And those residents were sampled from the registered voter file. We ran the field for just about 3 weeks, 3 1/2 weeks from the 01:12:13
February 20th, March 17th. 01:12:18
And our outreach methods included postcard invitations and text message reminders. 01:12:23
As well as some e-mail invitations to residences here. 01:12:29
That is a great question and I will have to look after. 01:12:35
As always, the data has been weighted to reflect the demographics of the city as a whole. 01:12:41
Referring to each general home ownership, ethnicity and City Council district, you can see our distribution of respondents there. 01:12:45
By council district and you can see that we have about even numbers within each council district so. 01:12:53
Feel really good about that level of representation, and 800 interviews results in margin of error just over 3 percentage points 01:12:58
for all of our aggregate estimates. 01:13:03
So getting into the fun stuff here. 01:13:09
We have our overall quality of life distribution and you can see we have very few residents below that 50 mark, which would be our 01:13:13
our last passing grade on that zero to 100 scale. The really positive attitudes about quality of life in the city overall see that 01:13:19
peak rather than about 90. 01:13:25
On that zero to 100 scale, we're seeing a bit of a ceiling effect here. Frankly, it's hard to get above an average of 82. So 01:13:33
congratulations, that's also consistent across council districts. We don't have any areas of the city that are expressing. 01:13:39
Disproportionate levels of discontent or. 01:13:46
Expressed some concerns about their quality of life. So really positive ratings here. 01:13:49
And when we ask residents how they feel about the direction the city is headed, whether it's headed in the right or wrong 01:13:55
direction. 01:13:58
You see a larger don't know where I'm sure response this year compared. 01:14:01
To what we've seen in the past. 01:14:05
We're just over 1/3 of residents expressing that sort of mutual response. 01:14:08
And that varies from the one council district to the next. 01:14:13
We have particularly high or positive ratings in Districts 1 and 3. 01:14:17
Overall, we have 46% of residents on that. 01:14:23
Saying that they believe the city is headed in the right direction. I feel good in the next slide. 01:14:27
When the reapportioned that right direction, wrong direction balance, taking out that don't know or unsure proportion, we have 01:14:34
about a three to one ratio of residents who say the city has had it in the right direction. So this is looking positive overall. 01:14:41
We ask residents whether they approve or disapprove of the job you all are doing, and overall we have a really high approval 01:14:50
rating here. 7 or 82, excuse me? 01:14:55
Out of 100% and that has gone up just slightly, not really outside the statistical margin of error there compared to 2022. 01:15:01
But 82% approval rating is again something that. 01:15:10
Anything. So congratulations. 01:15:15
A particularly high strong approval rating of residents in district school. 01:15:18
This, in case not, inspires any kind of staffroom conversations at hand. 01:15:23
And an overwhelming majority who are at least somewhat likely to recommend the city members. 01:15:34
And that has picked up just ever so slightly again from 2022 from our 88 to 90% again statistical time, but we like to see those 01:15:52
positive shifts. 01:15:57
And some of the things residents particularly like about the city is that the general location in the valley is a definite draw, 01:16:04
very convenient, lots of accessibility, but the sense of community and the aesthetics of the community as well, Church reads. That 01:16:10
really lends some character to the city. And then. 01:16:16
The quality of neighbors, neighborhoods and people in general really stand out. 01:16:23
Smallpapers some of the things that respect holiday apart from other communities along the front. The things that I really like 01:16:29
about this particular side of augmented responses. 01:16:36
Sometimes. 01:16:44
Which Gina can attach. Sometimes reading all of those text responses gets a little depressing. 01:16:46
This question in particular I think really highlighted. 01:16:53
How much value holiday residents place in the sense of community here? 01:16:56
So again, a lot of focus on the people and the characteristics and the values of the community. 01:17:01
And then the respect and then some aesthetics as well. It's quaint, it's charming, there's beautiful setting, clean atmosphere, 01:17:07
safe neighborhoods, lots of lots of really positive just for first year that residents have. 01:17:13
Looking at areas of concern that residents expressing about the next three to five years, what they would like to see the city 01:17:22
focus on. 01:17:25
Same old song and dance. We're seeing concerns about topic growth and housing. 01:17:30
Looking at our city service ratings here, we have about 2/3 of residents who believe that they receive an excellent or good value 01:17:37
for their tax dollars. 01:17:41
And that is up about 7 percentage points compared to 2022. So positive evaluation there and pretty consistent across council 01:17:45
districts with. 01:17:50
A slightly larger portion of residents in District One who feel they're receiving an excellent or good value. Our largest share of 01:17:55
residents who express an excellent value in District 3. 01:18:00
We asked the residents some questions about the character of the city. 01:18:11
Their sentiments about the city as a whole. 01:18:16
Overall, we had a really strong majority of residents who feel safe to live in the city of holiday and that is a great place to 01:18:19
raise a family. 01:18:23
Really, really positive indicators there and again, an increase compared to 2022 when we're looking at that safety rating, we've 01:18:28
got something 82 to a 91 there in the aggregate. So positive sentiment shift there and from an 83 to an 87% of residents who agree 01:18:34
that the city is a great place to raise the family this year. 01:18:41
Majority positive sentiments across the board here, with one area where we see. 01:18:48
A little bit more exhibition. 01:18:54
The chair of residents who feel the city is growing and developing in a positive way. 01:18:56
A total of 54% agree with that sentiment. And again, that's still up compared to 2022, even though that's our lowest. 01:19:01
Rated sentiments on this set. I would guess that that might be a little ambiguous in the minds of some. That's fair. Just when you 01:19:08
say the word growing in an infill community. 01:19:14
That immediately scares people as opposed to renewal versus growing growth? Yeah, it's definitely. 01:19:20
It's become quite the four letter, yeah. 01:19:27
Looking at residents attitudes toward business opportunities in the city, if there were additional kinds of businesses or things 01:19:32
that residents would like to see more of in the city. 01:19:36
There's a focus on locally owned restaurants and cafes and locally owned retail stores or shops, so an emphasis on the local 01:19:41
business appeal. 01:19:45
And then grocery stores and neighborhood markets, probably no surprise to see that towards the top of the list as well, but 01:19:50
certainly a far cry from just more local commercial offers. 01:19:54
Overall city service ratings, guys, do you have any events? Parks and open spaces and emergency preparedness are the highest rated 01:20:02
services. 01:20:06
From that set of services that are provided in house from the cities and not contracted with other agencies. 01:20:10
A positive rating across the board here until we get to finding building and building services where we fall below 50 on that zero 01:20:17
to 100 scale. 01:20:22
I give this hobby out every year, but just to reiterate, I think this is more of a reflection on residents attitudes towards 01:20:27
growth and development. 01:20:32
Than it is actual interactions with planning, zoning and building. When we read the open-ended responses there aren't. 01:20:37
Particular qualms with planning and zoning most of the time. 01:20:44
Unless it's well this plan was approved for a neighborhood and now that neighborhood is changed now there's a new development 01:20:49
going in. So again, more of the more of an expression of growing pains then. 01:20:55
She's not the department itself. 01:21:01
And then sidewalk maintenance is the one area where we see. 01:21:04
Significantly. 01:21:07
Statistically significantly less than half of residents. 01:21:10
46 on that zero to 100 scale thing, they are satisfied. 01:21:13
An area where we know there's a little bit of controversy in division in the community and do it so. 01:21:18
No big surprises here. 01:21:24
Next slide, we'll look at the shift in those ratings overtime, which are largely minimal again except for sidewalking, because 01:21:26
that's the one area where we see. 01:21:31
A real decline compared to 2022. 01:21:37
Other services are sort of maintaining the same rating they had in prior years or increasing slightly residents ratings of 01:21:40
emergency preparedness. 01:21:44
Bateson is only on the sidewalk. Surgery is having food. 01:21:49
Constructionally, they don't exist. 01:21:53
We asked as sidewalk maintenance. So yeah, that's the way that the service has been listed in the past, not construction. 01:21:56
So that could be part of the. 01:22:04
Very little reduce some. 01:22:11
Yeah, Yeah. There's a question about who's responsible for that maintenance. Is it Telemodere in the city? 01:22:14
Maxima. 01:22:24
No. 01:22:25
Police services and a pulmonary drinking water all for this statistical tie for the third highest rating there. 01:22:31
But all contracted services are rated by highly service, maintenance of city streets and roses where we see the lowest. 01:22:42
Average satisfaction rating among these. 01:22:50
I didn't know how that surfaced piece relates. 01:22:54
Well, I mean, I wouldn't be interested to see. 01:22:57
How far we could go back, They compared that. 01:23:00
Sure. Next slide has our trend line for these services. 01:23:04
If you had a particular low point in 2019 and a thump interception was there in 2022. 01:23:08
As we've sort of leveled out for surface maintenance satisfaction. 01:23:16
Garbage collection recycling, because that's kind of. 01:23:23
Really all part of this very same script. 01:23:26
Similar service. It looks like that's just been. 01:23:29
No, but just prove. 01:23:32
Yeah, I. 01:23:39
Not being particularly familiar with. 01:23:41
Traction recycling administration in holiday. 01:23:45
I would be speculating to explain the gap in residence perceptions of that particular service. 01:23:48
But you can't see sort of the trend between those two services or a similar correlation in when they've been higher or lower over? 01:23:54
In terms of the comments, if I think I might be just typing in there, there were some comments about. 01:24:04
Glass recycling. 01:24:12
And then? 01:24:15
The kind of recycling event that we just did, the hard to recycle items, there's not really a place that was to go. 01:24:17
We asked residents if they had any particular comments about city code enforcement. 01:24:28
We we talked about this last year in reviewing our survey results. 01:24:33
Code enforcement is one of those things where we kind of need resins to elaborate because we want to know whether they feel 01:24:38
there's too much or not enough code enforcement where that. 01:24:43
That frustration is coming from. 01:24:47
We had a lot of comments about. 01:24:50
Sidewalks and city parks. Whether the sidewalk installation. 01:24:52
Happened or happened on time, or frustrations around timing of responses to code issues. 01:24:56
And I will say. 01:25:04
I'm not sure residents always understand whether their complaints are city code related or other department related, and that's 01:25:07
sort of reflected here as well. 01:25:12
So if we really want to drill down into the code enforcement question in the future, we might have to give a little bit of context 01:25:18
for residents. 01:25:23
And focus a little bit more on what exactly that service entails. 01:25:28
A few other comments about city services and experiences. Then sidewalks came up quite a bit. 01:25:35
City Planning Department was responsive and transparent. 01:25:41
So despite. 01:25:45
Sort of scapegoat possession finding has been put in all of them here and then some questions about animal patroller, comments 01:25:47
about animal control as well, but service maintenance, sidewalks, weather installation or maintenance separately. 01:25:54
When we ask residents to allocate that hypothetical $100 budget among the city services, again, the surface maintenance of streets 01:26:03
and roads receives the highest average allocation with just shy of $12.00 out of that 100. 01:26:10
Open Spaces, as one of the favorites, also sees a particularly high allocation there. 01:26:17
Then police and fire and emergency medical services also receiving a high share of residence. 01:26:23
Potential budget? 01:26:30
After that, sort of a long tail of distributed services, but nothing that stands out as overwhelmingly. 01:26:32
In need of budget dedication or improvement once we get below that sort of top tier? 01:26:39
We have more than 10. 01:26:46
Who sentence progressives budget? 01:26:48
Looking at residents obviously supports their own neighborhood. Overall, we have pretty positive sentiments about the aesthetics 01:26:52
of residents neighborhoods and how connected neighborhoods are to the city. 01:26:58
The connectedness of neighborhoods in particular has improved compared to 2022 around this perception of that connectedness. 01:27:03
And I am not sure what to make of that particular increase, frankly, that's. 01:27:12
A really positive shift. 01:27:18
From that. 01:27:20
70 or from that 48 to 70. 01:27:22
But really pleased to see that sentiment there. And then the walkability of holiday neighborhoods is also pretty highly rated 01:27:25
overall. 01:27:29
Access to usable transit is where we see the most division in residence perceptions. 01:27:33
And mostly that's. 01:27:39
Just a normal distribution of attitude about transit. When we look at the share of residents who actually use transit in the city, 01:27:41
that's not particularly surprised. 01:27:45
We asked residents about streetlights in the city where they feel there were too many in the right house or not enough. But most 01:27:54
residents feel that there are the right amount of streetlights in the city, but very few indicate that there are too many. We have 01:28:01
about 40% of residents who say that there are not enough and the overall quality of streetlights, whether they are too bright or 01:28:07
not bright enough, about 2/3 of residents say that they are. 01:28:14
Of getting about one in 10 residents requesting. 01:28:21
That they gave less rights and then just shy of 1/4 of residents saying that the light in the city is not bright enough so. 01:28:24
Frankly, no real conclusive evidence here that there is an overwhelming problem. 01:28:32
We do have a majority of residents sort of in that adequate amount and quality category. 01:28:40
But definitely some. 01:28:46
Suggestion that there there are areas of the city that would like to see additional streetlights. 01:28:48
Happy to highlight those areas in a map as a follow up as well. 01:28:54
The vast majority of residents don't use public transit. 01:29:01
Probably not particularly surprising here. 01:29:05
And mostly, that's just a matter of preference. Residents would rather drive or. 01:29:08
A cycle or walk? 01:29:14
Mostly personal vehicles. 01:29:16
Or among those residents who might be open to considering using transit, the concern is that they can't get to where they need to 01:29:18
go using the current UTA bus system. 01:29:23
Current browsing that one entire residence also say that they're unfamiliar with the systems available to them. 01:29:29
When we look at the share of residents who might be open to. 01:29:39
Using transit in the future, if there were changes or improvements made, additional types of transit and holiday if we were 01:29:45
looking at. 01:29:48
Streetcars and light rail. 01:29:52
That would encourage about one in four residents to consider using transit more often, or using it all. 01:29:54
I thought one in five residents would be interested if there were additional direct routes, particularly to the University of Utah 01:30:01
along Los Angeles Blvd. 01:30:04
Or more frequent bus service would be appealing for a reasonable share of residence. 01:30:09
About four out of 10 residents say that regardless of what improvements were made, they still would not be interested in using 01:30:15
public transit more often. 01:30:19
A quick look at city communications. We asked residents this year if they would be interested in a city newsletter that was mailed 01:30:25
to them separate from the city's insert in the Holiday Journal, and we see a reasonable appeal here. We have about 72% of 01:30:31
residents who say that they're at least someone interested in receiving that newsletter. 01:30:38
And the ideal frequency is probably about once a quarter to bimonthly. 01:30:44
Where we have sort of critical mass there question on that was for physically not one as a that's random and it's clear that. 01:30:50
It's in addition to what they already get funds, yes. Yep, that was explicitly stated in the question. So in addition to. 01:30:59
What is already in the in the Holiday journal and emails that they go with a physical newsletter that we've emailed out. 01:31:06
About once a quarter or once every two months, there's appealing to a large sugar. 01:31:13
We have about 1/3 of residents who report contacting the city office in the past year when we asked residents to. 01:31:21
Talk a little bit about their experiences. We see pretty positive attitudes on the whole about the customer service experience. 01:31:29
When one resident says when this is encapsulates seems pretty well. 01:31:37
I really need to contact the city but when I do they are accessible, friendly and responsive. So very appreciative. 01:31:42
Comments from some residents and then we have. 01:31:49
Most of the discontent that residents expressed when reaching out to a city office is. 01:31:52
Typically frustration about the resolution of their issue not going the way they would have preferred or happening as quickly as 01:31:59
they would like. Less so a concern about the actual interaction with the city of the ship. 01:32:04
And overall we have. 01:32:12
46% of residents who say they were satisfied with this, they gave response to their outreach. 01:32:14
We have 41% of residents who say there were at least some degree dissatisfied. 01:32:21
Really even distribution here, especially when we're looking at that smaller share of residents who did reach out to the city. 01:32:26
Again, largely concerns about whether the issue was resolved in a way that was. 01:32:36
Favorable in residence perception more so than. 01:32:42
Than interactions with the city. 01:32:45
So some frustrations there about. 01:32:48
About how things played out. 01:32:51
Separate. 01:32:56
Now looking at some specific city initiatives we have. 01:32:57
A large majority of residents, maybe 2% in total, who feel that it's at least somewhat important that the city. 01:33:00
Prioritize sustainability thinking for the future. 01:33:06
And the priority projects are things that residents would be most supportive. Supportive of in that vein are preserving and 01:33:12
planting trees, water conservation first and foremost and then again the statistical tie for our third most popular project here 01:33:18
when we look at waste management so additional. 01:33:24
Instruction on how to reduce waste of immune products. More recycling opportunities. 01:33:31
And then reducing carbon emissions to improve air quality. 01:33:36
Transitioning to renewable energy sources is appealing to just shy of capital presidents, or just shy of half. Feel that that 01:33:40
should be a priority. 01:33:44
Just about 1/3 of residents are interested in seeing the city encourage more alternative ones of transportation. 01:33:48
Rather than personal vehicle use then sort of consistent with what we see in terms of current. 01:33:55
Public transit usage and interest in future public transit usage. 01:34:01
Indianapolis housing and development in the city. 01:34:07
Pretty consistent themes of what we've seen here in the past, although I will note that the interest in having some form of higher 01:34:11
density or mixed-use development somewhere in the city has increased. 01:34:17
Overall slightly compared to 2022, but our patterns are pretty similar. Overall residents are most interested in single family 01:34:24
homes or traditional look and feel of holiday in their area. 01:34:30
But would be interested in seeing. 01:34:36
Small shopping center, sort of. 01:34:39
Hyperlocal commercial opportunities. 01:34:41
Small shopping center, mixed-use developments and have some appeal. 01:34:44
We're looking at opportunities for density that are most appealing for residents in their own backyards. 01:34:48
Single family garden, courtyard style homes or accessory dwelling units are the most popular there. 01:34:55
And again, sort of mixed-use filling in that gap between that hyper local commercial and some higher density housing 01:35:03
opportunities. 01:35:07
26% of residents feel that apartments are necessary. It would be nice to have somewhere in the city and that has increased 01:35:12
compared to 2022. 01:35:17
So I think that's. 01:35:22
A pretty stark commentary on residents concerns or focus on the housing issue throughout the state. So that's not necessarily 01:35:25
unique to holiday, although the openness to that particular type of development. 01:35:32
As long as it's happening not in their neighborhoods, essentially is a little bit. 01:35:39
I have a question on that side. We could look at that same data but. 01:35:46
In a crosstown with IH. 01:35:53
Personally, I'd be very interested in seeing them. Yep, we can take others follow up. 01:35:55
We also asked presidents a few questions about public health and to what extent. 01:36:04
A variety of public health issues might be concerns or things that have had an impact on them or members of their households. 01:36:11
The most common things that residents said have affected them or, again, members of their household. 01:36:19
Include respiratory diseases, mental health challenges including depression and anxiety. 01:36:26
Insufficient or no health insurance coverage. 01:36:31
Inability or difficulty carrying out daily tasks due to health related conditions. Like look at the population demographics of the 01:36:34
community. A lot of these things make sense. 01:36:39
We also see a particularly large share of residents pointing to cardiovascular diseases on the whole. 01:36:44
As something that has affected them remembers their household. 01:36:51
Some of the other comments here are. 01:36:54
Are, I think, instructed as to what residents see as some of the key public health issues? 01:37:00
We can dive a little bit more into that, but we had. 01:37:05
So few residents responding and saying that these things were. 01:37:08
Of particular concern to them, again, you see the sample size there is much smaller than our our city. 01:37:14
Sample as a whole. 01:37:20
So I don't want to be too much into this, which is why they aren't on the slide, but a few comments from residents that I think 01:37:22
are. 01:37:25
Are helpful. 01:37:30
We also ask residents to have questions about their level of emergency preparedness or their perception of their level of 01:37:34
emergency preparedness and that of local organizations. 01:37:39
Most residents fuel. Our households are at least somewhat well prepared. 01:37:44
We have a majority of residents who feel local churches are at least somewhat well prepared as well. 01:37:47
The state government, just shy of half of residents, feel as well. 01:37:53
At just 39% of restaurants feel that holiday city is barriers on what well prepared, but almost half of residents say they don't 01:37:58
know enough to express so there is definitely. 01:38:04
An opportunity to engage the community in emergency preparedness here and make sure that they know what resources are available 01:38:09
from the city, what the city. 01:38:13
Or what plans supposed to be have in place in the event of some type of community emergency. 01:38:18
The groups or organizations that residents are most likely to turn to in the events of an emergency, their household sort of the 01:38:27
frontline here, three out of four residents, they they're very likely to seek support from their household. 01:38:34
City government, state government sort of statistically tied here in terms of residents willingness or likelihood to reach out for 01:38:42
support. 01:38:46
23% of residents, just shy of one in four, say they would be very likely to reach out to the city. 01:38:52
Local churches are the next organization that residents are. 01:38:58
Most likely to say they're very likely to reach out to. 01:39:02
So probably no real surprises here. We get an opportunity for increased education. 01:39:05
When it comes to how residents would prefer to hear about potential emergencies or things that. 01:39:13
Affects the community as a whole looking for reliable news and updates. Those is our most interested in receiving text messages. 01:39:19
Just shy of 40% say that that would be their preferred way of receiving information. 01:39:26
In talking with Gina and Holly as we were crafting this question, one of the things that I think. 01:39:33
Would be fascinating as we're talking to residents about emergency preparedness is. 01:39:39
What happens and where they turn in the event of a cell phone network outage? 01:39:45
So that sort of stark comparison there, I'm thinking about those resources that are. 01:39:50
Online or potentially more vulnerable? 01:39:56
Social media being the next most common requested or sought after source of reliable information. Again, there's a lot of 01:40:00
opportunity for. 01:40:05
Education when it comes to emergency preparedness and and disaster plans. 01:40:11
And that concludes our whirlwind tour of this year's survey results. 01:40:19
Any I know drinking from a fire hose but any immediate questions? 01:40:23
We talked about this before, but you can never get salary since that you finished up. 01:40:29
Umm, do you ever do anything that showed like a like a like a period analysis anonymized kind of a thing where? 01:40:36
Either a print houses or. 01:40:41
Surrounding areas where you if you hit your house, since I don't, I mean I'm assuming that you get those since it's public record. 01:40:43
We go and look at it be really interesting to see Milk Creek couldn't. 01:40:48
Heights and, you know, maybe Murray. 01:40:54
Some of these things like. 01:40:57
Yeah, he has. 01:40:59
Formally aggregated those things. 01:41:00
That all just sort of lives in our collective brain. So, but yeah, we'd be happy to do a little bit of that sort of New York 01:41:03
State. I guess I would just plant the seed. I think it would be something that could be interesting. 01:41:09
It's a happy to share how great we are with our neighborhood. 01:41:16
Yeah, yeah. 01:41:32
Yeah, I mean partly. 01:41:39
You know when we missed. 01:41:42
Don't miss the book so much as where are opportunities for approving the face of I don't see. 01:41:45
I don't see much difference in our data. 01:41:50
Year over year in terms of telling us on. 01:41:53
It seems to me like because what we want to do is take this information and then and then use it to help us. 01:41:58
You know, prioritize your budgeting that's coming up in the next couple of weeks. 01:42:04
We're really prioritized her. I think put our emphasis is in. 01:42:08
The arts and it's in investments in streets and infrastructure and. 01:42:13
Project safety trees. Yet surface maintenance is flat basically. I mean think of all the roads. 01:42:19
24 to 77. 01:42:28
And it was like flat. And so that's where. 01:42:30
Offence. 01:42:32
That's where it just makes you think, well. 01:42:35
What came up in 2019 like that? But in 2018, that's when a lot of it hit. 01:42:37
Oh. 01:42:53
So. 01:42:58
And. 01:43:01
Well, like I look see Bruce? 01:43:05
Districts, you know, because almost every vote was read in our districts, right? And so it'd be really nice to isolate that. 01:43:07
You know. 01:43:16
Yeah, in your particular. 01:43:20
Likely to favor them satisfied or. 01:43:25
For yourself, so happy to do a little bit of follow up there. 01:43:29
And I would love to see that on the street thing I was interested in about the 10 versus 40% as I recall. 01:43:34
Where they thought there was, I looked at maps to say OK. 01:43:41
Are there some certain areas where? 01:43:44
Discount, yeah. Especially interested. Yeah, yeah. The street lights I think are particularly not that I want to put St. lights 01:43:47
in. I'd love to see the data just to see if there was. 01:43:52
If it's, you need some substance. 01:43:57
If there are additional questions after you have a little bit more time to skip this, we're happy to follow up via e-mail. 01:44:04
I can reach out to Gina. 01:44:10
Thank you so much. That's a lot of work. 01:44:13
That's helpful to us for sure. 01:44:17
We love the opportunity. Thanks again. Thank you. 01:44:18
All right. 01:44:26
Here he comes. 01:44:32
He said Jared for one slide. Wait, is it Jared? Oh, I'm sorry, it's not Jeremy. I was originally planning to be telling you. 01:44:33
Preston, Oh, you can say. 01:44:46
Home and start moving. 01:44:51
Strength the weights finally over you get a financial policies. 01:45:06
OK. So it's just gotten has very much been a collaborative effort from me, Gina, Holly, her previous intern River did a lot of 01:45:12
work on it and I think it originally started as midfield Financial Policy and it's sort of. 01:45:18
Worked in the holidays so this is very much a draft document so I'd love the council's input and things. 01:45:25
We've changed our group to make it more aligned with the Council's vision. 01:45:30
So my plan, I don't want to just sit here and read 13 pages worth of financial policies at you. So I'd like to just. 01:45:34
Things that I think are particularly relevant to the Council, if you have you want to talk about, just jump in and let me and we 01:45:41
can talk about those too. 01:45:45
So the general purpose of this document is just to set Word parameters and guidelines for prudent fiscal operation and procedure 01:45:51
services. So it's. 01:45:55
Met the general policy to help guide us as we go. 01:45:59
And so starting off with the general fund reserve policy. 01:46:04
It's the food from the bottom here midway through at. 01:46:08
The state requires us to be between 5 and 35% of general fund revenues as a percent of general fund, excuse me, unassigned fund 01:46:12
balance as a percentage of general fund revenue. 01:46:18
This policy would basically. 01:46:23
Make that new limit into 15% of general fund accounts as extended revenue. 01:46:26
Last year we were at 33.6%, which is about $7.8 million of underserved fund balance. 01:46:32
And then that 15%, if you look at 2024, if we were at the 15%, we have about 3 1/2. 01:46:38
So that's just a little bit of context with that policy. 01:46:45
Are there any other questions on the general funds? 01:46:49
Reserve policy. 01:46:52
The next one I wanted to point out was the stormwater utility fund. Within this one, we'd be setting a minimum of 60 days worth of 01:46:58
annual operating expenditures, no less than 60 days worth of annual operating expenses in this longwater utility month. And 01:47:05
basically what this means is so we take our operating expenditures within the stormwater utility fund, we divide it by 365 and we 01:47:11
take our current assets less our current liabilities and divide that by that percentage of the. 01:47:18
Operating expenditures that would give us our days working capital. 01:47:26
Which the goal would be to be at 60 days. I did this calculation for fiscal year 24 year only at 26 days. 01:47:30
Which isn't particularly surprising, just considering. 01:47:37
Museum Water Utility Fund is. 01:47:40
But that would be an aspirational goal for the city of 60 days worth of annual operating expenses within that fund. 01:47:43
And. 01:47:52
It's beside the flowing. 01:47:53
Is it seems things like that? 01:47:55
So it's pretty soon to tell in fiscal year 23 compared to 24. 01:47:56
The fund balance, the unassigned fund balance within that one actually increase. 01:48:02
But it's it's such a small dollar amount, it's. 01:48:09
500,700 thousand, it's really small dollar amount in terms of. 01:48:11
As a whole, when you consider we had. 01:48:16
$8 million worth of projects, we're working on it, all these other things that are going on within the fund so. 01:48:18
I would say that it's too soon to tell at this point, but we are currently in discussion with Louisiana Communicable advisors 01:48:24
potentially looking at a rate increase with some water utility fund. 01:48:29
And they're gonna be doing analysis to see if that would be your current decision for us. 01:48:34
It's kind of planned. 01:48:38
Right. Yeah. 01:48:40
I think when you look at that, there's the bulk of. 01:48:43
The revenue is going to be committed to the bond payment and then we have a little bit that's that pays for. 01:48:47
Personnel, personnel, but piece of that and so. 01:48:54
What's left is what you have left for start and end. It's probably a shrink. Keep shrinking. 01:48:58
Anyway, so just understand the rationale for that though, is there some variability in? 01:49:04
Expenses for that house still kind of a cushion for yeah, the rationale would be. 01:49:09
Generally, if your current assets should be. 01:49:14
At least substantially not. You know you want some cushion between the current assets and your current liabilities so that you 01:49:18
know you can cover those liabilities in the short term. 01:49:22
So the idea behind having at least those 60 days was that you can meet your short term obligations at the very least. 01:49:26
And does the storm water do the revenue some storm water fees? 01:49:36
The magic, that payment, I mean, is it? I mean, I guess if you guess what I wonder is why would we think that we would ever come 01:49:40
up with it, you know? 01:49:44
Shortage there it would be. 01:49:48
It is still random sinkhole. 01:49:51
Well, yeah, it's not just those specific costs that we have. 01:49:53
Things like that. 01:50:01
That makes sense. 01:50:04
Right, right. 01:50:07
OK. 01:50:08
Continuing on from there. 01:50:11
Their revenue policy, so about midway through that page. 01:50:13
The policy states that Solid won't use one time revenues towards ongoing expenditures. So say for instance, the state came down 01:50:18
from on high and said here's $1,000,000. 01:50:23
We wouldn't necessarily just budget that to cover personnel costs or things like that and to avoid doing a rate increase if we 01:50:28
needed to, we would use that for like a capital expansion to. 01:50:33
Improve infrastructure with the city. We wouldn't use those one time funds. 01:50:39
For an ongoing cost. 01:50:43
And then the next one, the mayor actually pointed this one out. 01:50:47
It states administrative fees will be charged by the general funds of the enterprise funds. 01:50:50
To recapture admin costs basically. So this would be like genius time. 01:50:56
And all these kind of my time. 01:51:00
Helping to manage the school market utility fund. And so we're recapturing a portion of those costs back to the general fund 01:51:03
because our salaries aren't charged there. 01:51:07
The original amount that was set to be charged from the Stormwater Utility Fund back to the general fund was established when the 01:51:12
fund was first made. 01:51:16
And this was a recommendation from Lewis Young One. 01:51:21
He originally set up the fund. 01:51:23
And we plan to engage with Young to see if we should potentially look at increasing matter adjustment. 01:51:25
Necessary, but it's not based off of a percent of the fund or. 01:51:32
Or a fix You think it's? 01:51:37
$20,000. 01:51:39
I think it was based on a percentage of our times. 01:51:41
And I think it was maybe 3 to 5%. 01:51:46
Total of the. 01:51:50
3.5% of your expire. 01:51:51
Of the administrative numbers, yeah. So I'm not a huge number. 01:51:54
And that hasn't changed since it was first. 01:51:59
But is that an equal percent for you and you and Jared are shared of a higher? 01:52:01
Slice so Jared's salary specifically just in making it get coded to the utility fund. 01:52:06
This would be for like Holly G Sniper. That's right, Jared and Joe specifically already have a port of their salaries. 01:52:12
All right. And then a little further down it just states that. 01:52:20
We use a conservative approach, things where budgeting forecasted revenues. 01:52:28
And every year, as part of the budget process will present. 01:52:32
The forecast to the Council of where we expect the revenues to be in those future years. 01:52:36
And then in the expenditure policy. 01:52:48
Second paragraph from the bottom it says in the mayor actually pointed this one. 01:52:51
This out too and I think it's a great addition and the sort of adjustments of this policy. 01:52:56
It's the midpoint of the cities salary range is more than 5% below the market for any given position. The greater the particular 01:53:01
position will be adjusted upward and the mayor had suggested, you know, do we really want to have a policy that would find us in 01:53:06
such. 01:53:11
Black and white lay. 01:53:17
And Gina and I talked about this and we thought about adding additional language that would say, you know, subject to budget 01:53:18
experience or maybe something like subject to. 01:53:22
Manager. City Manager Expressions. 01:53:27
That would help give us a little bit more protection if that's something came up that we didn't expect. 01:53:30
And then another thing that the mayor and I had discussed. 01:53:36
Next stage, This is the operating budget policy. 01:53:48
This is the third paragraph from the bottom. It states that the city manager has the ability to reality. 01:53:51
Where interdepartmental budget realities can be required. 01:53:59
It's to be brought to the council. 01:54:03
And this is a pretty typical policy. You'll see it in those cities. 01:54:07
Whenever composing about city, this is the policy and this is also the policy in Midvale. If you if you want to establish a policy 01:54:11
that would have. 01:54:15
A requirement to go to the Council to reallocate budget within just the department level. 01:54:19
You're going to end up with a lot more. 01:54:24
A lot more discussion because it happens fairly regularly, but things like that. 01:54:27
So I would recommend we. 01:54:32
Do it as written, but there is room for discussion there. But something. Yeah. But my only question there was, was is there a 01:54:34
limit to that? 01:54:38
You know, because I get if it's interdepartmental, no, we don't want to be so bureaucratic when your budget if there's a 20 or 01:54:46
$30,000 shift in the department. 01:54:52
Is that something that we should bring to the Council? Have you ever seen any policies? I know in UFA I thought we had something 01:54:58
that was. 01:55:02
There was a certain. 01:55:08
Limit. 01:55:09
So you may have a policy, and this is fairly public. 01:55:11
When some of these. 01:55:15
You can reallocate. 01:55:17
And then left in the remaining. 01:55:20
Operational items, but not between us. 01:55:22
So that might be something that they have, yeah. I mean, the way I interpret this is. 01:55:27
Once we set the budget. 01:55:32
Umm, if you have shifts you need to make inside of a departmental, but you just make them, we don't need them. 01:55:35
But if there's a shift from one, that's. 01:55:42
I'm going to move $20,000 from here this line item to this line item. 01:55:45
Is that something that? 01:55:50
The Council needs to know about or is it just as long as we stay within that departmental budget? 01:55:52
We don't. 01:55:57
Because we don't care. I would say the difficulty with that as well as establishing what that limit would be because 20,000 in 01:55:58
admin isn't the same as 20,000 in public safety or 20,000 in. 01:56:04
To Catholic projects so. 01:56:10
So we would have to look at trying to find where do you establish materiality, right, exactly. 01:56:12
Yeah. 01:56:19
Like the idea of. 01:56:20
Distinction. 01:56:23
Other expenses. 01:56:25
Well. 01:56:27
No salaries already have good. 01:56:33
That might be. 01:56:37
They do, but. 01:56:41
I mean, examples that I have seen are, let me just tell you what happened to me, right? But I've seen department heads. 01:56:42
Not higher positions. And then use that, use that fund for maybe an outside study, something like that. 01:56:51
And and as it currently is. 01:57:00
I would bring that to you, but the policy doesn't require it, so if that's the kind of thing you're interested in, we could work 01:57:03
on. 01:57:06
That's pretty reasonable. Consider sorry. 01:57:12
You know, it's not something I'm concerned about. I just want to make sure we understand the mechanics of the policy then that, 01:57:24
you know. 01:57:27
Once we set the budget, we've seen the budget, we have to have a budget adjustment, but inside the inside those departmental 01:57:32
funds. 01:57:35
Those funds can move other than there are things here that have to be brought to the council. 01:57:39
You're just going to hire somebody or you know those? 01:57:45
I also did that I'll. 01:57:48
How granular? 01:57:51
And. 01:57:53
And if major categories and subcategories. 01:57:57
If you're within a subcategory. 01:58:00
Yeah, but if you're switching not only departments, but major categories and for us. 01:58:05
South, you know, with salary issue standing and excluding. 01:58:11
Well, because our big budget items are contracts to expire and tell you or whatever. 01:58:15
Once we get past the department of budget like it is going to subcategory so. 01:58:23
It's not something I'm worried about, I just thought I'd bring it to your attention and say what? Just so you know, this is not 01:58:28
working. 01:58:31
And also from an audit perspective, the auditors are reviewing our financial statements at the end of the year. They look at it 01:58:35
from a department level. 01:58:39
So say for instance we were over budget on individual line item, but we were OK within that department, that would be a finding 01:58:43
better. 01:58:47
It also states that just a little bit further on the very last paragraph, it states that in accordance. 01:58:55
You just say code, we'll have the budget adopted prior to June 30th unless we're doing the truth in taxation and which will have 01:59:03
it adopted for September 1st. 01:59:08
Moving on to Capital Asset Management. 01:59:21
Actually a few things we don't want to mention in here. 01:59:23
The city will develop and maintain a capital improvement plan, which includes realistic project timing, scope and operating budget 01:59:27
impacts. 01:59:30
Also I wanted to mention. 01:59:35
Funds remaining within a project budget after the completion of a project may be reappropriated for other projects. So say for 01:59:37
instance, we're working on a specific project. 01:59:42
It came in under budget. We could reappropriate it for a different project. 01:59:48
Put on to the long term financial planning. 01:59:56
Just in that first or second paragraph of page 7. 02:00:00
Each year, the city staff will present the presentation that's forecasting operating expenditures for the next 5 years. I think 02:00:06
when we did our. 02:00:10
Retreat few months ago it covered. 02:00:14
A projection of revenues, but I did cover a project interest managers. So this would be a new thing that we would add next year 02:00:17
during your retreat I would talk about it. 02:00:22
Expenditures so. 02:00:26
And moving down to the debt section, the very last paragraph of page 7. 02:00:28
Best service as a percentage of general fund expenditures. 02:00:38
As a percent of general expenditures of the general fund will not exceed 15%. So I did this calculation for fiscal year coming 02:00:41
forward, which is our most recent audited financial statements and we were at 7.8%. 02:00:48
Which would leave us with an additional $1.3 million worth of annual debt expenditure would take at and this is just really 02:00:55
relevant because Spring Lane and the City College model. 02:01:00
And I revealed the debt schedules that were provided to us from Lewis and Yang and just to see how that would play in if we 02:01:05
decided to add it. And I believe one of the amortization schedules we provided us had a setup where. 02:01:11
The debt payments in the early years were lower and then they would increase as those other debt payments dropped off and I 02:01:18
believe the first one dropped off around 2033. So those payments were lower and then they as they drop off that payment for spring 02:01:22
lanes. 02:01:27
Would increase and how close are we getting to 15% in mail here? Yes. So in fiscal year 24, we had $1.3 million worth of room. 02:01:33
According to the debt schedule, we would have a $1.17 million worth of additional debt payments. So we would still be below that 02:01:38
15%, but it would be relatively close. 02:01:44
And then by 2033, the debt payment increased to 1.5 million. 02:01:50
What we would expect by 2023. 02:01:54
Or the single fund expenditures would have increased by 20 what, 203333? Yeah, some of those other payments crop up at that point 02:01:57
too, right, exactly. So yeah, they would drop off and we would expect that we had. 02:02:05
So I wouldn't succeed. 02:02:13
Yeah, because I think they're trying to smooth that. So when at that point that the debt stays kind of the same, that one goes up, 02:02:14
OK. 02:02:18
It just improves me and I just my. We've probably said it helps you clarify language. 02:02:24
Turn around on the publication. 02:02:32
That it sounds true. 02:02:37
That was great. 02:02:39
All right, fantastic. 02:02:48
All right, moving on to Page 8, sort of near the bottom. This isn't the accounting, auditing and finance or reporting section. 02:02:51
Capacity to states that the city has established an audit committee and I believe some of them are reserved on the audit 02:02:59
committee. This policy just makes it so we have a formal policy that we will have this and. 02:03:04
I think it had originally been. 02:03:09
Established so that we could get those. 02:03:11
Those points from the state. So this just makes it a formal policy. So we have that written down somewhere. 02:03:13
This next page. 02:03:23
So second paragraph of page 9. 02:03:26
It mentions that a monthly budget for his action report would be provided to the council, which are currently doing. 02:03:29
But it also mentions that. 02:03:35
A checklist thing shall be provided to the mayor monthly, and we currently do that. Every time we do a check around, I provide a 02:03:37
list of the checks to the mayor with the backup to those checks. 02:03:41
And I just wanted to mention it because we could. 02:03:45
Add that to the Council into that as well, as the Council is interested in seeing a checklist from the checklist that we do. 02:03:47
I do not. I won't worry about it. 02:03:54
It's common in a lot of these, yeah. Like USA and UPD. That's. 02:03:57
One of the consent agenda items. 02:04:02
Well, thus they'll typically give you the listing check laws. 02:04:05
But this will actually come with some of the detail that backs up that check, like the copy of the invoice. 02:04:11
And I could do. I could do either like if it don't make it sound so awful. 02:04:18
Just a checking list. 02:04:24
This would be no problem. 02:04:26
I mean, that's what's common, yeah. 02:04:28
And a gentleman. 02:04:33
I've been providing all of the back of the Americas. So that's for check signing. Yeah, you know, right, He is a signer, but he 02:04:36
typically is a sign effects usually Italian Gina, but I like to finish. 02:04:41
Right. So since he is a signer. 02:04:46
It seems like the Council is not interested, which is totally fine. One last report for me, right? 02:04:52
OK, going a little bit further down, this is the third graph from the bottom of page 9. 02:04:59
Basically it just states that. 02:05:05
When a new employee starts, we'll provide them with a copy of the employee handbook. 02:05:07
And the employees required to sign saying they received it and that they understand the policy. 02:05:11
It also states that. 02:05:16
Council members and employees are required to report any conflicts of interest and and. 02:05:18
Refrain from participating in or deliberating on any matters regarding those conflicts of interest. 02:05:22
OK, Next, the procurement policy. This really just sort of folds into our existing policy, which is the Chapter 2.11 in the city 02:05:30
code. 02:05:35
But it basically just states that. 02:05:40
The city will compile with all federal laws and regulations for procurement. 02:05:43
And this policy won't. 02:05:47
You know, keep the city from complying with any grant conditions. 02:05:49
So this one's pretty general and sort of walks into the. 02:05:54
Policy. 02:05:58
Page 11. 02:06:01
This is cancer season and deposits. I just had a few things I want to mention here. 02:06:03
We've the third paragraph down. It outlines the types and checks that the city would not accept, which would be illegible checks, 02:06:08
checks that are old, checks that are in the foreign currency. These are just. 02:06:14
Payments that the city doesn't want to accept. 02:06:20
And additionally, the next paragraph, the United States that the city will be in compliance with the state laws regarding deposit 02:06:26
policies. So we collect all the receipts and all the deposits every day, but we're required to take those deposits to the bank at 02:06:30
least once every three business days. 02:06:35
And that's the state line. This is just saying. 02:06:40
Next, the investment policy and this is sort of folded into another conversation with. 02:06:47
DNA and I have been having about potentially looking at an investment advisor working with the firm and you know taking a portion 02:06:51
of the cash that we currently have in the CIF and investing in with one of those burdens that potentially they'll be getting a 02:06:55
better return. 02:07:00
And this is sort of. 02:07:04
Gone by the wayside just because the PCIS has been performing relatively well recently. 02:07:07
So maybe this is a conversation that we want to look at kind. 02:07:12
Expanding umm. 02:07:15
If the PTS starts to not perform as well. 02:07:17
But basically. 02:07:20
I want to cast it all with Barry. 02:07:24
And if we decided to go that way, we wanted to work with investment advisor, we may need to work on a more robust policy. 02:07:34
That would meet the requirements of the money management. 02:07:47
Christian, do you know of other, I've never heard of other municipalities that that move their funds outside of the smaller 02:07:50
municipalities. Do you know, do I know? 02:07:55
Yeah, yeah, they, they kept the majority of their cash with the PTIF, but I think they had around like. 02:08:00
2 to $3,000,000 with an investment firm which is the one that we met with, which is Morton Investment Advisors. 02:08:07
And what are we going to test? 02:08:14
Oh man. Well it'd be it'd be our fund balances, right. Well, no that would the fund balance would fund balance is just year over 02:08:18
year revenue and excessive expenditure is not necessarily the actual cash. 02:08:24
I can give you those caption works, I don't want to try to guess them off this offline. 02:08:30
Well, if there's something sizeable, I think it's, it is, it certainly works. So you have to have a pretty conservative policy 02:08:34
with regard to the types of investments. 02:08:39
The US Treasury is very likely. 02:08:43
OK after play. 02:08:46
That's definitely a conversation you. 02:08:51
Well, explain that to me now. 02:08:55
The fund balance has always been a curious thing. 02:08:57
Because I mean, essentially what it's saying is that. 02:09:01
We have taken in more money. 02:09:04
Then we budgeted to meet. So that's not real money. That's just the that's just other forms. For instance, it could, it could be 02:09:08
in my hitchhiking or it could be in receivable. 02:09:13
Or it could be. 02:09:18
It's not necessarily. 02:09:20
The cast it could be in other forms. The assets could be like. 02:09:22
Against. 02:09:26
So if you want to go spend the 10 or $11 million to. 02:09:27
Remodel this and we write a check for it. Is the money there? Does it exist? It exists for the like Dumb and Dumber where you just 02:09:32
skipping the IOU. 02:09:35
Spectrum Money. 02:09:41
You have to sell a picture. 02:09:43
It's Steve. 02:09:49
But. 02:09:53
Now, but we should have something that says. 02:09:57
Yes, Holiday Bank and Trust, we have this much and sign this much and then PTIF we have this much, yeah. 02:10:02
Is it a lot or? 02:10:09
Think it would be? 02:10:13
Collective fund problems and something. 02:10:20
It's because. 02:10:22
That's just. 02:10:24
So that picture is going to look different in at the end of September. It's going to look at the end of March, right? We really 02:10:28
want to see is what's the. 02:10:32
You know what's the value I guess of where that sits up with some. 02:10:36
So the PCF, how does that perform? 02:10:42
Has been doing relatively well in recent years, and prior to recent years it's been a skipped. 02:10:45
The Chennai tracks treasuries and. 02:10:51
High quality interest rate here, so it's been around. 02:10:56
45%. 02:10:59
So like the federal funds rate, Yeah, CD rates kind of and. 02:11:01
Treasury rights. 02:11:07
And I think that holds into the we had met with more an investment by and they had called it a reverse, they called a reverse 02:11:09
yield curve that we've seen in recent years so. 02:11:14
That's an area I'm not as skilled in, but the short term money I was paying more than long term. Exactly. Yeah. 02:11:20
OK, definitely we can restart the conversation about looking at an investment advice. 02:11:28
And then further on deposit just states that the city would be in compliance with the money management act of the state. 02:11:36
OK. Moving on to the credit card policy. So this is credit card payments. We would be payments that the city is taking in from 02:11:44
people making payments to us. 02:11:48
3rd paragraph from the bottom it just states that the city will not get cash advances on credit cards. 02:11:54
Credit card skins will not be accepted over the phone or by mail. Just do the high risk of that. 02:12:01
I wouldn't want to have a situation where an employee is like taking down someone's credit card information on. 02:12:06
And matters that just because of the risk that loses to the city in general. 02:12:11
Also, mailing in credit card information is just. 02:12:16
Or like it so OK. 02:12:20
Are refunding a different? 02:12:24
Card than what you collected on the issue. Last sentence brought all over it. 02:12:26
Yeah, last sentence of the second paragraph there, it just says that if we're issuing a refund, it will always be back onto the 02:12:31
card that made the original transaction. 02:12:35
OK. And then page 13, the last page. 02:12:41
If the city becomes aware that. 02:12:45
A customer's credit card had been compromised. The city would take steps to notify those individuals immediately. 02:12:48
And as well contact the merchant bank, local law enforcement. 02:12:54
And let everyone know. 02:12:58
OK. And Christian, that's going to have to be? 02:13:01
Wrapped in with our data privacy, OK. 02:13:05
Issue SO. 02:13:08
Ogilvy. 02:13:10
Yeah, that one would happen. Is that policy? 02:13:12
Things around like a breach. 02:13:19
Security rates that remember. 02:13:23
But we retain. 02:13:26
Questions we don't umm, that's that's kind of a good thing. It just. 02:13:28
The bill that was passed in the legislature described to have a policy and we have to say what information is. 02:13:36
Is grandma won't sell it one like a building permit form? 02:13:42
Or any of those forms. It just says this information is public. 02:13:46
But it's using network to my credit card information or anything just. 02:13:51
The basics, yeah, I just confirmed we really don't. 02:13:55
Select or non retainer? Not that I'm not that I'm aware of. 02:13:58
OK. And then the very last section is just about? 02:14:05
The city issued credit cards. These are the cards that employees have. 02:14:08
And then third paragraph from the bottom, it basically states that cardholders are responsible for securing their own credit card 02:14:12
and making sure that all purchases are associated with business activities and that they maintain proper documentation receipts 02:14:17
for all transactions. 02:14:22
Any unauthorized purchases or misuse of a card could result in severe consequences, up to including determination of employment. 02:14:27
And then very last paragraph. 02:14:35
Upon termination, for whatever reason, it is the supervisory responsibility to collect that. 02:14:39
Are from their employee, turn it into finance and then also. 02:14:44
Notify me. 02:14:50
So any questions, can we go back over anything? 02:14:54
Nobody has more than one credit card right now. 02:14:58
Well, we recently transitioned our credit card processing to move to something that is a. 02:15:01
You can submit receipts online rather than having paper receipts. We just need to that in the last couple months. So we currently 02:15:06
have two credit cards, but those will be the. 02:15:11
Yeah. In fact, we're going to talk specifically. 02:15:16
For Christian, so I think the. 02:15:30
The intent is to be a resolution. 02:15:38
And on the 17th, I mean, I don't think anything. Thank you. There's a couple at us. 02:15:41
I hope you're here for. 02:15:48
It hasn't even been to say that. 02:15:49
Well thanks for working on this. This is. 02:15:55
That's. 02:15:58
Growing up. 02:16:02
Ethan hungry? 02:16:05
Ventura, France. 02:16:07
Picture now. 02:16:10
What the statement of flying remains all the way. 02:16:13
Folks of the roads were paving. 02:16:24
You're welcome. Well, a lot of people don't be able to read it. 02:16:34
All we're going to see is that little. 02:16:38
Emily, District. 02:16:42
I will say through the defense. 02:16:44
This is truth districts. 02:16:50
No. 02:16:59
Oh yeah, well this is way further still on this. 02:17:00
Yeah, that's like 4 worst roads. 02:17:05
1. 02:17:13
Where do we advise you from again? 02:17:15
Unincorporated county, Yeah. 02:17:19
They had severely neglected. 02:17:23
A few things to note. 02:17:27
Regarding budget. 02:17:32
Our summer budget that we're gonna be spending is. 02:17:37
Generally set. 02:17:42
But let me back up. The previous three years, we've been spending additional money outside of the accounting contract. 02:17:46
Our bond funds. 02:17:54
That bond fund? 02:17:56
A year ago we were not sure if. 02:17:59
Do they have any money leftover for additional painting projects? I kind of thought that we would. 02:18:02
We I did not propose any additional paving projects. 02:18:08
Look at this brain. 02:18:12
Umm, and. 02:18:15
It turns out we don't have any additional. 02:18:18
Paving projects for the spring. 02:18:22
What I'm going to propose here will be project. 02:18:26
Rows that will be paid this summer. 02:18:30
It will come out of our county contract. 02:18:33
That will start. 02:18:37
July 1st. 02:18:38
But we do like to get ahead on which roads are going to be paved. 02:18:40
With the county secretary requesting that stuff. 02:18:45
In the winter time, so. 02:18:48
Umm, these are roads that I gave to the county. 02:18:50
Back in December we have a TIFA modifications in the last. 02:18:55
A couple months. 02:19:01
We can add in Waco's drives to. 02:19:04
A list after seeing what? 02:19:08
Went really down to it. 02:19:11
With that said, we are spending about $300,000 out of the county contract and with that $300.00 we have. 02:19:14
About. 02:19:24
7 or 8 loads here. 02:19:27
We are on. 02:19:29
Total delay. What is not showing on this as far as paper preservation is we will be doing. 02:19:32
So leveling in a new microsurface on WASAF Blvd. that was funded as a part of the. 02:19:42
And that will be done. 02:19:48
So I. 02:19:51
8 lots of questions and. 02:19:55
So I actually. 02:19:59
If Drew's sister still has the three worst. 02:20:01
Why aren't we doing those ones? I know one has applied specific water and all that they they all have price. And in fact, I did 02:20:04
approach Salt Lake City this spring because they're. 02:20:10
Funding their projects starting. 02:20:17
July 1st as well, I said look. 02:20:19
Been asking you guys for three years to. 02:20:22
Replace the water main in these roads. 02:20:25
We get each of them annually. 02:20:28
It's on their project list. 02:20:30
And they keep. 02:20:33
Responding vaccine. 02:20:35
Right, next I can get funded this year. 02:20:37
I have talked to Drew. 02:20:40
Those roads are now in a condition where if we don't get them repaved. 02:20:41
It's the point where we would fall into a complete reconstruction of that of those roadways. 02:20:48
And so I am going to come to you guys. 02:20:55
A year from now. 02:21:00
And say, well, we already paid these roads. 02:21:02
Unfortunately, after we repaved those Reds. 02:21:04
It is quite possible to get dug right back up, yeah. 02:21:08
It's just. 02:21:16
Over and over and over, yeah. 02:21:22
Have been very nice to work. 02:21:25
But what I did felt, felt like speaking is once they do come in, if it's within five years. 02:21:27
If they do come in. 02:21:35
Place those Waterlinks. 02:21:38
They would be required to completely repave the road rate again. 02:21:41
So that would be part of a moratorium that we put on the road. So then they definitely wouldn't replace those things. 02:21:46
Who knows and we would end up in the past but. 02:21:53
It was kind of a threat I used in my e-mail. 02:21:57
A month ago when I asked them about it but they didn't seem to care. 02:22:00
So when you say the Lakewood, when you say the Lakewoods on the left, where is it? This right here. 02:22:05
Oh, I'm sorry, you need to zoom out to see it. I didn't see that. OK, so that that's on that. So I was talking to Jerry about this 02:22:12
earlier. 02:22:17
So this is just the use of. 02:22:22
The balance of the county public works budget that we have. So when we get into the budgeting process we had talked about. 02:22:25
As a priority, carving out 800 or 900,000 or $1,000,000 for roads. 02:22:34
So then we would take that piece, whatever that is, whatever. We haven't looked at the budget yet. 02:22:40
And then Jared would come back and say, OK. 02:22:45
This is accounting funds, but next spring, which is still next fiscal year, we would be. 02:22:50
We're gonna use the money for priorities 12345, you know, and. 02:22:56
Conceivably, that's when those roads would be. 02:23:01
Then hey, Maiden, yes, so we did our best bidding. 02:23:04
In the late winter. 02:23:08
So we like to bid in February. That way the contract does have a good idea of material costs. 02:23:12
And it's early in the season where we. 02:23:19
Where they like to get something out of the books. 02:23:22
So that they can. 02:23:25
Schedule our terms so. 02:23:27
Sometime mid-april. 02:23:29
May, early June, it knockout those streets. 02:23:31
Yeah, so this isn't. I just want to make sure the council knew that this isn't. 02:23:35
All that's going to be done next fiscal year on those and this is this. Well, this will get done after July 1st. 02:23:41
July, August is usually when accounting. 02:23:51
Well, that's right. Just thinking credit at that. 02:23:54
Yeah, they have a supply for it. They're not doing much. They are waiting till July 1st. 02:23:59
And not will feel it even though we planned for it later. You see, I thought this was next. 02:24:07
Fiscal years the the. 02:24:13
What we are anticipating, but this is what we have left this fiscal year that we're going to spend next fiscal year. No, it is. 02:24:16
Budget starting July 1st because we're out of money this year. 02:24:24
So, yeah, so I just want to make sure, you know, we're getting this, isn't it? We'll come back. 02:24:36
I'm sure Jared will come back in. 02:24:42
January or February with the budget we've set aside, when you go out the bid and say this is how we're going to prioritize, we're 02:24:44
going to spend the money, yeah. Or whenever. So in that month when Gina presents. 02:24:49
The budget to the City Council. 02:24:55
4th fiscal year 26 starting July 1st. That will include a minimum of 1/2. 02:24:58
Half $1,000,000 for additional roadway. 02:25:03
Ovaries, OK. And based on you know. 02:25:07
Survey results you want to. 02:25:12
Well, and how our budget looks, we don't know what the revenue projections are and what other issues we're going to face, but. 02:25:14
We had kind of made a commitment in the retreat that. 02:25:21
We were going to prioritize loads. 02:25:24
And instead of instead of having it be at the bottom and here's what we got left, we'll prioritize that. And then there may be 02:25:27
other places that suffer, but it's not going to be our road infrastructure. 02:25:33
And I think that's what our survey is telling us we should do, yeah. 02:25:39
So that when you've got faith in the 5th. 02:25:43
$300,000 on this page it would be in addition to. 02:25:46
Is this area that it would be a fun source for the semantic ways is that? 02:25:50
July. What's the distance? Let's go here. Yeah. So you guys will budget it come July 1st. 02:25:56
But I won't bid it until February. 02:26:03
And so it will be constructed next spring. 02:26:06
But we could have a, we could have a little debate prior to that in terms of. 02:26:09
What we think the priorities ought to be to go out to bid. 02:26:14
Yeah. And is that going back to the water main thing? Is there anything we can do to incentivize our partner then? 02:26:17
Maybe if you wanted to contribute to some thoughts. That's what I meant. Do we? Is there any way you can? 02:26:26
Sweeten the pot for that partner. 02:26:34
I mean, I was at a meeting. 02:26:38
Other city managers and there are other cities that manage both the water side and the roads away. 02:26:43
And it's it's a rough. 02:26:50
It's what sounds like it's rough damage, yeah. 02:26:55
So if we're going to stand, how slow are you going to be standing right there? 02:26:59
Yeah, 3 to $400,000, wouldn't that be illicit after $100,000, I'm not something good. 02:27:02
And if they're gonna happen? 02:27:10
Why? Why should we? 02:27:13
Well, I'm just saying if it makes more sense to do that, then it should be up twice. You know what you're saying? Yeah. Letting it 02:27:16
fall into the state of disrespect where you go reconstruction. 02:27:20
Is that so? Are you saying that the theory? 02:27:26
The study, yeah. 02:27:30
They may delay in putting. 02:27:37
Doing those improvements based on the fact that now we put a road over there and they got to replace it. 02:27:39
Yeah, that's what I was trying to figure out. 02:27:47
If there's a if there if, it's their obligation though to replace the road. 02:27:50
And we say that we're going to budget to replace the relatives you guys will put, you won't have to pay that cost. Isn't that 02:27:55
incentive to them? 02:27:58
I don't know when they will get this funded, it could still be several years out. 02:28:02
There's no guarantee that it's going to be next summer. 02:28:08
And they have a big network with a lot of means to replace but Infinity. 02:28:21
But why? I mean they should be. 02:28:27
Is it unrealistic to think that we could talk to somebody and tell them what our dilemma is and get an answer in terms of any kind 02:28:30
of idea when they might do it or? 02:28:36
I mean, it's just the answer. We'll get to it when we get there. Well, they have it on their plans to the human. 02:28:42
They do review it each. 02:28:47
Signing period. 02:28:50
Prioritize, but it's never made that priority list form. 02:28:53
They do have some fairly expensive projects, including. 02:28:58
Scans it. 02:29:02
I don't know if it's replaced them, but it's expansion of the reservoir. 02:29:05
Overall 6200 thousand only being bar. 02:29:09
They have some. 02:29:13
Very expensive projects, but even since you this water main project, I think you're. 02:29:15
It's still well over $1,000,000. 02:29:21
We're going to replace it in all Germans, so. 02:29:25
And there's no way, no way to get any indication of when they might possibly get them. 02:29:28
Now they do not. 02:29:35
I think they might internally have an idea, but. 02:29:37
But I don't think. 02:29:40
They wouldn't tell us. They never shared. 02:29:42
Are you good friends with Sarah Braesford? 02:29:48
Yeah, I believe it's certainly have a conversation with Dora and we were talking about maybe elevating it in a different way as 02:29:51
well. 02:29:55
And seeing if we could get some attention, I think what when they came two years ago, when Mark came two years ago. 02:29:59
She did reference the weather system and the investment. 02:30:07
The investment that they make in our jurisdiction. 02:30:12
So. 02:30:15
They are trying to balance it across the entirety of their system. 02:30:17
Umm as well. So I think that kind of thing helps against us. 02:30:21
It would be great though, if they could at least tell us what year. 02:30:27
Knowing that things contain. 02:30:31
Is this plan for 28? Is this plan for 32? Or is this just the on 8th? 02:30:35
Wish list of things don't get together that would be great to know. 02:30:41
Yeah, I mean it would be helpful even if they said. 02:30:47
We just can't tell you. I mean. 02:30:50
Because at that point, I think you just got to go and do it right. You can't let the road fail. 02:30:52
This is a row that people have been complaining about since October. 02:31:00
Is it really bad route? 02:31:06
Said I've gone, Yeah, you don't live there anymore. 02:31:08
I think, I think, yeah, I think NMP. 02:31:14
Behind somebody else? 02:31:21
So we can definitely have this conversation and see if we can get it before the Council actually allocates the money get to a 02:31:24
better. 02:31:28
That might be. 02:31:32
All right. 02:31:37
Just very quickly, we don't have closed session, I think we're done, right? 02:31:39
We don't have posted. 02:31:45
We don't have closed session. You don't have a mission at all yet or you wouldn't be sitting here. 02:31:47
And the 17th, everybody's here and remind me in May, we're meeting on the. 02:31:52
First, second and third right weeks, yes. 02:31:59
And somebody's not going to be. I'm not on the 8th and true, are you? 02:32:03
We we have we typically have the presentation of the tangent budget in a work session one another follow on meeting in May. 02:32:09
So that would be the. 02:32:19
Will it be the 8th, 15th and 22nd? 02:32:23
Yeah. Isn't this what I said in that graduate? Is that graduation in June or May the 1st, 8:15, first, eighth and 15, I'm sorry, 02:32:26
the 1st. 02:32:31
Yes, 1st, 8th and 15th. 02:32:37
So Paul will not be here on behalf. 02:32:41
So I guess what I'm wondering is, should we have an app? 02:32:46
Granted districts. 02:32:49
So we are looking forward to a closed session, OK. 02:32:51
Anything else that any without me till the 17th? Will you remind me coming up? 02:33:00
So at the end of the month, the first part of next month. 02:33:06
OK. I'll move to adjourn. 02:33:10
All in favor, aye, Chair and thank everybody. 02:33:14
Hey, thanks, Chief. 02:33:20
But the field of power? 02:33:24
Did you? 02:33:27
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